@String Bell I'd rather black feminists stayed out of this thread they don't care about us. so this is not their buisness.
Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women
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This is the part that interests me more than anything.
It's been documented well enough that Black women are surpassing Black men when it comes to higher eduction. I'm seeing as much personally just looking at my own and other departments. I work in a large office building and I see FAR more Black women making strides professionally than I do Black men.
That's what piques my curiosity more than anything. What's the difference between young Black men and women causing the latter to seemingly excel past the former? To be even more specific, I'm especially curious about the differences between the two minus the typical oppression talking points. That's not to completely disregard how Black men are viewed and treated in society, so don't get me wrong. Still though, beyond Black women, why are some Black men doing okay while others fall behind? I might catch some flack for this, but I believe there's only so much that can be blamed on this society at a certain point.
It's been documented well enough that Black women are surpassing Black men when it comes to higher eduction. I'm seeing as much personally just looking at my own and other departments. I work in a large office building and I see FAR more Black women making strides professionally than I do Black men.
That's what piques my curiosity more than anything. What's the difference between young Black men and women causing the latter to seemingly excel past the former? To be even more specific, I'm especially curious about the differences between the two minus the typical oppression talking points. That's not to completely disregard how Black men are viewed and treated in society, so don't get me wrong. Still though, beyond Black women, why are some Black men doing okay while others fall behind? I might catch some flack for this, but I believe there's only so much that can be blamed on this society at a certain point.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
As a Caribbean, I know that my family pressed education as far back as I can remember. I know other Africans do so with their children as well. Both for men and women. There's a persisting idea that Afram women are encouraged to go to college than Afram men. In this idea, Afram men also do not find value in education. Now, I'm not saying this is true. But this idea has been around for awhile now (decades). So I wonder how true it is and if so how much does it contribute to the current issue of generation wealth among black men.
Bumblebreh
Collecting honey and money
I suspect it to be the direct or indirect progression or the social movement that is shifting more and more women into mindset of being independent and hence the surge of more women studying higher education.
Take It In Blood
Banned
Waits for Uncle Tom conservatives on this forum to blame this on black people's lack of effort somehow
Off the Onion
No tolerance for the fatherless
As someone who grew middle class this is tragic
ignorethis
RIP Fresh RIP Doe RIP Phat
The biggest take away for me was the part about black boys doing better in areas where there are a lot of black fathers, even the ones that don't have fathers.
Being fatherless is literally the worst thing you can inflict on a young boy and people still haven't realized this.
Being fatherless is literally the worst thing you can inflict on a young boy and people still haven't realized this.
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Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
In your opinion whose fault is it?
thatrapsfan
Superstar
Here is that excerpt:
The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.
“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”
The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.
“That is a pathbreaking finding,” said William Julius Wilson, a Harvard sociologist whose books have chronicled the economic struggles of black men. “They’re not talking about the direct effects of a boy’s own parents’ marital status. They’re talking about the presence of fathers in a given census tract.”
Other fathers in the community can provide boys with role models and mentors, researchers say, and their presence may indicate other neighborhood factors that benefit families, like lower incarceration rates and better job opportunities.
nikkas too busy trolling on thecoli to mentor black kids
AlainLocke
Banned
A capitalistic society will always have a class of people that are "necessary failures" cause it's a zero sum game.
Black men are the "necessary failures"
Like if you make it past 25 and you got a college degree and not a criminal record or you ain't dead then you are very much better than idk 25 percent of Black men?
Now if you manage to make any significant wealth and I am talking about networth...not getting a six figure job and a nice house. I mean networth which as it stands...the class of Black people with any net worth comparable to Whites are Black baby boomers and maybe their Gen X children.
And they are the ones that benefited from Affirmative Action and the Civil Rights Acts...cause if you haven't noticed...all that shyt been diluted and now we got women, immigrants and etc taking that...
So back to my overall point...
Failure is necessary in Capitalism...cause there are only so few many resources, capital and money to go around...
Black men and (Native Americans) are the necessary failure...that makes American domestic capitalism work...
Black males that die before 25, Black males with criminal records, Black males that are in prison...and etc...
They are the ones that make everything possible for everybody else...
shyt, more Black men that die before turning 25 and have criminal records, even make it better for Black men like me...
Even I will benefit from their failure and I am part of the demographic...but I got a college degree and come from a two parent household and both of my parents got masters degrees and I am not an immigrant. I am a Native so I am ultra rare. The advantages I got...not even people in my own family got. My life is significantly better than my cousin who is the same age and my dad's niece.
If I make it to 30...I am good and set for life....as a Black male. Not for a White man....but a Black man...like statistically I should start worrying about dying from cancer or some shyt and I should have at least 1/5 of a what White man the same age and degree got in net worth.
Black men are the dregs of American society and an underclass...that's the reality.
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This is why I don't want to hear women talk about how they got it harder