Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women

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A capitalistic society will always have a class of people that are "necessary failures" cause it's a zero sum game.

Black men are the "necessary failures"

Like if you make it past 25 and you got a college degree and not a criminal record or you ain't dead then you are very much better than idk 25 percent of Black men?

Now if you manage to make any significant wealth and I am talking about networth...not getting a six figure job and a nice house. I mean networth which as it stands...the class of Black people with any net worth comparable to Whites are Black baby boomers and maybe their Gen X children.

And they are the ones that benefited from Affirmative Action and the Civil Rights Acts...cause if you haven't noticed...all that shyt been diluted and now we got women, immigrants and etc taking that...


So back to my overall point...

Failure is necessary in Capitalism...cause there are only so few many resources, capital and money to go around...

Black men and (Native Americans) are the necessary failure...that makes American domestic capitalism work...

Black males that die before 25, Black males with criminal records, Black males that are in prison...and etc...

They are the ones that make everything possible for everybody else...

shyt, more Black men that die before turning 26 and have criminal records, even make it better for Black men like me...

Even I will benefit from their failure and I am part of the demographic...but I got a college degree and come from a two parent household and both of my parents got masters degrees and I am not an immigrant. I am a Native. The advantages I got...not even people in my own family got. My life is significantly better than my cousin who is the same age and my dad's niece.

If I make it to 30...I am good and set for life....as a Black male. Maybe not for a White man....but a Black man...like statistically I should start worrying about dying from cancer or some shyt and I should have at least 1/5 of a what White man the same age and degree got in net worth.

Black men are the dregs of American society and an underclass...that's the reality.
I'm not anti-capitalism but this post is 100% truth.

Somebody has to lose for other people to win, and in American society a black man is very low on the totem pole, only native American men are down there with us.

nikkas have to understand, literally everybody except your parent and family wants you to lose as a black man. Every win you take they feel is a win that was stolen from them.
 

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Tired of hearing about these Ivy League studies they do nothing to address. Whole thing reeks of....:mjpls:


They consistently present the issue to the public as if to rub it in your face (POC)....:smugbiden:


Then do nothing to solve it or implement anything....:mjpls:

Uh....you know that these studies are used in creating policy...it's their job to research...not to implement policy...

The solutions already been presented in many papers and talks...baby bonds, reparations and etc...

Like everybody knows the solution...it's about getting the government to implement the solution...and that part is on the citizens of the USA. That's on our part to get it done....
 

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The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.

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A capitalistic society will always have a class of people that are "necessary failures" cause it's a zero sum game.

Black men are the "necessary failures"

Like if you make it past 25 and you got a college degree and not a criminal record or you ain't dead then you are very much better than idk 25 percent of Black men?

Now if you manage to make any significant wealth and I am talking about networth...not getting a six figure job and a nice house. I mean networth which as it stands...the class of Black people with any net worth comparable to Whites are Black baby boomers and maybe their Gen X children.

And they are the ones that benefited from Affirmative Action and the Civil Rights Acts...cause if you haven't noticed...all that shyt been diluted and now we got women, immigrants and etc taking that...


So back to my overall point...

Failure is necessary in Capitalism...cause there are only so few many resources, capital and money to go around...

Black men and (Native Americans) are the necessary failure...that makes American domestic capitalism work...

Black males that die before 25, Black males with criminal records, Black males that are in prison...and etc...

They are the ones that make everything possible for everybody else...

shyt, more Black men that die before turning 26 and have criminal records, even make it better for Black men like me...

Even I will benefit from their failure and I am part of the demographic...but I got a college degree and come from a two parent household and both of my parents got masters degrees and I am not an immigrant. I am a Native. The advantages I got...not even people in my own family got. My life is significantly better than my cousin who is the same age and my dad's niece.

If I make it to 30...I am good and set for life....as a Black male. Maybe not for a White man....but a Black man...like statistically I should start worrying about dying from cancer or some shyt and I should have at least 1/5 of a what White man the same age and degree got in net worth.

Black men are the dregs of American society and an underclass...that's the reality.


Still though, while it's true that there has to be necessary failures in this system, why aren't Black men from well to do backgrounds not finding reasonable success in society? Why are so many failing? As you pointed out those of us from humble backgrounds have a LOT to go up against. So our accomplishments are noteworthy considering what we're up against. Still, why are Black women from well to do backgrounds finding success and using their backgrounds as leverage while a lot of Black men from similar backgrounds are floundering?

Think about it. Black women from well to do backgrounds likely avoid teenage pregnancy, avoid being raised by a single mother, have a father figure in their life, not surrounded by the toxic environments prevalent in lower income Black communities, etc.. At the same time they're going to better schools, have economic advantages, don't rely on public transportation, better medical care, etc.. I'm likely missing a ton of other positives, but the overall point is many are finding success comparable with their white female peers.

Black men from well to do backgrounds aren't faced with the pressure to sell dope, bang, lack of a father figure in their life, unfairly forced to become a man during what should be the enjoyable years of their youth, etc.. They're going to better schools, have economic advantages, don't rely on public transportation, etc.. Again I'm missing a ton of other positives, but the overall point is not only are they not finding comparable success with their white male counterparts, if I'm reading this right they're not even comparing well with Black women. Why is that?
 

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Still though, while it's true that there has to be necessary failures in this system, why aren't Black men from well to do backgrounds not finding reasonable success in society? Why are so many failing? As you pointed out those of us from humble backgrounds have a LOT to go up against. So our accomplishments are noteworthy considering what we're up against. Still, why are Black women from well to do backgrounds finding success and using their backgrounds as leverage while a lot of Black men from similar backgrounds are floundering?

Think about it. Black women from well to do backgrounds likely avoid teenage pregnancy, avoid being raised by a single mother, have a father figure in their life, not surrounded by the toxic environments prevalent in lower income Black communities, etc.. At the same time they're going to better schools, have economic advantages, don't rely on public transportation, better medical care, etc.. I'm likely missing a ton of other positives, but the overall point is many are finding success comparable with their white female peers.

Black men from well to do backgrounds aren't faced with the pressure to sell dope, bang, lack of a father figure in their life, unfairly forced to become a man during what should be the enjoyable years of their youth, etc.. They're going to better schools, have economic advantages, don't rely on public transportation, etc.. Again I'm missing a ton of other positives, but the overall point is not only are they not finding comparable success with their white male counterparts, if I'm reading this right they're not even comparing well with Black women. Why is that?
The article hinted but didn't outright say it, they don't see enough black male role models for guidance.

Even in upper income black families with fathers, they usually move to a non-black area where from that point the only black male role model the boy will have is his own father.

Article saying that even having a father isn't enough, black boys need to see a range of responsible/successful black men growing up to properly put their lives and life paths in perspective.
 
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You go to school, get a good education, follow the law, do everything the right way, and still get racially profiled, pulled over, followed around in stores, always assumed you're up to no good, it's going to have a negative effect on your mind, and emotional well being.

White men want no competition. A black woman is not a threat to them, because this is a patriarchal society. Boys need to see men who look like them succeeding. You see what happened after Obama. The man didn't do anything for black people other than serve as an inspiration. THAT was enough to make white people go crazy. Just the image of that man and his family in that position scared the hell out of white people.

If Blake and Tyrone are applying for the same job, Glen wants to hire Blake not only because he sees himself in Blake, but because he doesn't want Tyrone to have money, and compete with him. Glen will hire Kisha, because Kisha isn't a threat, and he knows once Kisha gets the six figure job, she is not getting with Tyrone, who works at the cable company. The more money black people have, the more we can run for office, vote ourselves in, and compete. We can also afford o hire attornies, and keep ourselves out of prison for wrongful accusations, and petty bullshyt.

Going back to getting pulled over, what is the result? Tickets cost money, and sometimes require court. That's not only money, but time off work. I could go on, but you get my general point.
 

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The median networth of an American household is 97K...if you don't got that...then you are not middle class...


Median Net Worth: $97,300 in 2016 – New Strategist Press

net worth, yes.

Net worth isn't the same median income. Median INCOME is a lot lower.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-census-median-income-2017-9
Middle class income tops $59,000
https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2017/acs/acsbr16-02.pdf

$57,617 - from the census bureau

Upper middle class is generally considered 100k on up until you hit mid 300s - then you are in the 1%.
 

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You go to school, get a good education, follow the law, do everything the right way, and still get racially profiled, pulled over, followed around in stores, always assumed you're up to no good, it's going to have a negative effect on your mind, and emotional well being.

White men want no competition. A black woman is not a threat to them, because this is a patriarchal society. Boys need to see men who look like them succeeding. You see what happened after Obama. The man didn't do anything for black people other than serve as an inspiration. THAT was enough to make white people go crazy. Just the image of that man and his family in that position scared the hell out of white people.

If Blake and Tyrone are applying for the same job, Glen wants to hire Blake not only because he sees himself in Blake, but because he doesn't want Tyrone to have money, and compete with him. Glen will hire Kisha, because Kisha isn't a threat, and he knows once Kisha gets the six figure job, she is not getting with Tyrone, who works at the cable company. The more money black people have, the more we can run for office, vote ourselves in, and compete. We can also afford o hire attornies, and keep ourselves out of prison for wrongful accusations, and petty bullshyt.

Going back to getting pulled over, what is the result? Tickets cost money, and sometimes require court. That's not only money, but time off work. I could go on, but you get my general point.

Completely disagree and that shyt has to stop being perpetrated.

Agree with most of the rest though.
 
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In your opinion whose fault is it?

I'd like to know what your thoughts on this are

I'm pretty sure you probably agree with Trump and Paul Ryan

Keep it a bean and let your inner uncle tom leak out

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The article hinted but didn't outright say it, they're don't see enough black male role models for guidance.

Even in upper income black families with fathers, they usually move to a non-black area where from that point the only black male role model the boy will have is his own father.

Article saying that even having a father isn't enough, black boys need to see a range of responsible/successful black men growing up to properly put their lives and life paths in perspective.


Schools are majority female.... Stanford posted the study.. girls do better educationally due to nearly all teachers being female.....

Black boys do worse because the western world is anti black male...... add in that they'RE own parent(s) don't believe or read to them...... despite that, the fastest growing group earning 2 year stem degrees are black men...... yet only nsbe reported that.... I wonder why......
 
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