Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women

[EMY]

man this is so disheartening..........like whats the fukking point if ill probably just end up poor because of factors beyond my control

 

[Neuromancer]

The Trouble with Boys: A Surprising Report Card on Our Sons, Their Problems at School, and What Parents and Educators Must Do

Quote from a customer. I thought this was
poignant.

The Trouble with Boys is a book I would highly recommend to any parent of a young boy. As a father of a 16 month old, reading this book has prepared me to be much more selective in choosing a preschool for my son (when the time comes). But more importantly this book has shown me that I might have to fight for my little boy to assure he is not punished for being male

 

[badtguy]

I mean for whatever reason black people in western societies have no will to marry other black folks with wealth.
Even immigrants stop at telling their kids to go to school. They have no ambition to acquire wealth in America to pass it down to their children.
My ex gf thought it was odd that I believe in Nepotism/ If I work for something that I own, its only right I pass it down - I Knew then she was not for me- she believes in working hard for your own lol even some coli brehs always talk that nonsense

 

[Rekkapryde]

man this is so disheartening..........like whats the fukking point if ill probably just end up poor because of factors beyond my control

So you gonna let these "studies" and cacs stop you? That's what they want you to do....quit and not be shyt. Refuse to give them the satisfaction. We are used to always having to do more than our counterparts. shyt ain't nothing new. Education is something NO ONE can take away from you...take advantage of it and treat it seriously in your household. And truth be told, companies DO like having diversity. Now when it gets to those higher positions, it's definitely something that is harder, but it's not impossible.

Look at all the brothers throughout history who found a way to be successful in times much worse than we have today. fukk all that defeatist attitude and mentality shyt.

 

[KillerB88]

This is the part that interests me more than anything.




It's been documented well enough that Black women are surpassing Black men when it comes to higher eduction. I'm seeing as much personally just looking at my own and other departments. I work in a large office building and I see FAR more Black women making strides professionally than I do Black men.


That's what piques my curiosity more than anything. What's the difference between young Black men and women causing the latter to seemingly excel past the former? To be even more specific, I'm especially curious about the differences between the two minus the typical oppression talking points. That's not to completely disregard how Black men are viewed and treated in society, so don't get me wrong. Still though, beyond Black women, why are some Black men doing okay while others fall behind? I might catch some flack for this, but I believe there's only so much that can be blamed on this society at a certain point.

It's already been pointed out that although black women are receiving degrees at a higher rate, it's usually a degree in BS. I can't tell you how many women I know with dreams of becoming an HR Director

As far as young black men who come from wealthy homes... I have many examples, but I'll stick to one about a former best friend. I was living in the Greenbriar area in ATL, while he lived in a beautiful home in Cascade. His Dad's business was grossing just over 1M a year and life was good. I remember being so envious of his life back in HS-- until we got to college. This nikka's father taught him nothing. He had no real passion for anything or business savvy. nikka went to school got his B.S., got his Master's, and spent five years as a glorified assistant. He wanted a career in sports management but lacked the drive to ever be anything close to that. He just didn't have that focus or hunger. Always had straight A's, but ultimately he was a follower. He needed railroad tracks in life. A syllabus or mission statement telling him what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. He ultimately gave up the one job that at least was in the sport's industry once he realized he didn't have the sauce. I dropped out and I'm far more successful than him or his father.

I say all that to say that even when our fathers get some station in life, they don't do enough with it. Constantly thinking small. They get a decent house and an S-Class and start to think they've "made it". A man's son should always be at his knee absorbing wisdom. They may be feeding, clothing, and housing their kids; but no matter how nice those things might be, it still constitutes the bare minimum.

White folks really get their kids to buy into the concept of legacy, and their patriarchy has been strong because of it.

 

[AlainLocke]

Still though, while it's true that there has to be necessary failures in this system, why aren't Black men from well to do backgrounds not finding reasonable success in society? Why are so many failing? As you pointed out those of us from humble backgrounds have a LOT to go up against. So our accomplishments are noteworthy considering what we're up against. Still, why are Black women from well to do backgrounds finding success and using their backgrounds as leverage while a lot of Black men from similar backgrounds are floundering?

Think about it. Black women from well to do backgrounds likely avoid teenage pregnancy, avoid being raised by a single mother, have a father figure in their life, not surrounded by the toxic environments prevalent in lower income Black communities, etc.. At the same time they're going to better schools, have economic advantages, don't rely on public transportation, better medical care, etc.. I'm likely missing a ton of other positives, but the overall point is many are finding success comparable with their white female peers.

Black men from well to do backgrounds aren't faced with the pressure to sell dope, bang, lack of a father figure in their life, unfairly forced to become a man during what should be the enjoyable years of their youth, etc.. They're going to better schools, have economic advantages, don't rely on public transportation, etc.. Again I'm missing a ton of other positives, but the overall point is not only are they not finding comparable success with their white male counterparts, if I'm reading this right they're not even comparing well with Black women. Why is that?

People really think this is an individual race. This shyt is a relay.

Think about it really...

If you make it right...all as a Black man your potential peers are dead or in jail....

You benefit from their failure in the front end, but you suffer on the back-end

So when your son...need a job, a hook up, a mentor...who gonna do it...


Also it's important to notice...that to be a rich Black person the bar is extremely low...

Black Wealth in America Hardly Exists - Inequality.org

You need like a networth of a million.

10 percent of White people got a million.

Like the median networth of a White family is currently 117K

The median networth of a Black family is 17K...


Their money is a different type of money...

Black money might spend like White money but it don't stack like White money...so when they said "rich" they are talking about barely millionaires. A million in networth might be a house that appreciated in value. Losing a house ain't hard.



Also Black rich is some isolating shyt, especially for a Black male cause you come to find out that nobody else got money like you...so who gonna help you?

Tupac said it best an interview...he got rich and had to move away from Black people because he didn't wanna get robbed and shyt. And then White people don't fukk with him. So he is by himself.

Wealth and Knowledge are community properties...two things you need to be rich...and those two things are often shared between like groups. If you are a rich Black man...you are most likely well educated in your industry and you got money but there's very few of your kind...so you don't engage with Black people on a daily basis so your wealth and knowledge is useless to Black people. You don't live near Black people so we don't benefit from your tax contribution.

For all intents and purposes rich Black people aren't Black no more, they are White just in darkskin.

Also...

Black women...don't have their peers eradicated on a daily basis...and also a born rich Black women can simply marry into a rich family...

Men don't practice hypergamy (even though we should)...

So Black women benefit from not being male since they don't have peer eradication and they can easily practice hypergamy.

A born rich Black woman probably marries a rich man and Black women might have better networks....

Being a Black male is just different

 

[Wild self]

You go to school, get a good education, follow the law, do everything the right way, and still get racially profiled, pulled over, followed around in stores, always assumed you're up to no good, it's going to have a negative effect on your mind, and emotional well being.

White men want no competition. A black woman is not a threat to them, because this is a patriarchal society. Boys need to see men who look like them succeeding. You see what happened after Obama. The man didn't do anything for black people other than serve as an inspiration. THAT was enough to make white people go crazy. Just the image of that man and his family in that position scared the hell out of white people.

If Blake and Tyrone are applying for the same job, Glen wants to hire Blake not only because he sees himself in Blake, but because he doesn't want Tyrone to have money, and compete with him. Glen will hire Kisha, because Kisha isn't a threat, and he knows once Kisha gets the six figure job, she is not getting with Tyrone, who works at the cable company. The more money black people have, the more we can run for office, vote ourselves in, and compete. We can also afford o hire attornies, and keep ourselves out of prison for wrongful accusations, and petty bullshyt.

Going back to getting pulled over, what is the result? Tickets cost money, and sometimes require court. That's not only money, but time off work. I could go on, but you get my general point.

Best response to this thread. Masculine Black men are a threat to the overly sensitive, feminine white collar jobs. White men want to have total and eternal control of everything, despite their numbers rapidly dropping around the world. That's why they see black women as a non-threat, and even do their best to make them bedwench for a decent lifestyle.

 

[Colin X]

Their rich parents don’t hook them up?


Isn’t that the whole point of wealth???

 

[dblive]

This is the part that interests me more than anything.




It's been documented well enough that Black women are surpassing Black men when it comes to higher eduction. I'm seeing as much personally just looking at my own and other departments. I work in a large office building and I see FAR more Black women making strides professionally than I do Black men.


That's what piques my curiosity more than anything. What's the difference between young Black men and women causing the latter to seemingly excel past the former? To be even more specific, I'm especially curious about the differences between the two minus the typical oppression talking points. That's not to completely disregard how Black men are viewed and treated in society, so don't get me wrong. Still though, beyond Black women, why are some Black men doing okay while others fall behind? I might catch some flack for this, but I believe there's only so much that can be blamed on this society at a certain point.

It has been my experience In the corporate environment that an educated black male has to be damn near docile to get promotions at a similar rate of black women. A black man can't have a strong personality and work in corporate management.

 

[EMY]

So you gonna let these "studies" and cacs stop you? That's what they want you to do....quit and not be shyt. Refuse to give them the satisfaction. We are used to always having to do more than our counterparts. shyt ain't nothing new. Education is something NO ONE can take away from you...take advantage of it and treat is seriously in your household. And truth be told, companies DO like having diversity. Now when it gets to those higher positions, it's definitely something that is harder, but it's not impossible.

thank you breh..........seriously

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Young black boys are systematically targeted by this white supramacist society and have it worst then any other race or sex in this country bar none. Plenty of examples to support this.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Their rich parents don’t hook them up?


Isn’t that the whole point of wealth???

Nah, look at your first Black President who had his daughter work at the cashier line and bringing food to uppity cacs and niccas were supporting that

 

[bx.lion]

It's time for us as black men to build and protect our communities.

 

[bx.lion]

So you gonna let these "studies" and cacs stop you? That's what they want you to do....quit and not be shyt. Refuse to give them the satisfaction. We are used to always having to do more than our counterparts. shyt ain't nothing new. Education is something NO ONE can take away from you...take advantage of it and treat is seriously in your household. And truth be told, companies DO like having diversity. Now when it gets to those higher positions, it's definitely something that is harder, but it's not impossible.

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[PhillyzFinest]

1. A lot of wealthy black men aren't actually wealthy. They're rich.

2. Some are former NBA / NFL / MLB players.

3. Some are entertainers (rappers, producers, etc.)

4. Some are professionals (lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc.)

In these terms, their income is/was "earned income." In order to build wealth, you need "leveraged" "passive" or "portfolio" income.

- Earned: When you work a job, your paycheck is "earned income." You are your only asset. If you don't get your "ass"et to work, you don't get paid. Earned income is linear, meaning it is virtually the same check every pay. no matter how hard you work. Earned income is the hardest way to get rich or build wealth, because it is also the most taxed of all incomes.

- Leveraged: When you "leverage" the efforts of others or a system that automatically produces products and services. Think Jim Rohn's quote "I'd rather have 1% of effort from 99 people than 100% of my own."

- Passive: When you continuously receive income based on an asset you own. (Renting properties, holding fees from television shows/commercials, etc.)

- Portfolio: When you invest money into something that increases in value (Real Estate, Stock Market)

Basically, wealth is money that you get without having to work a job. You can't pass down a job to your kids. You CAN however, pass down a SYSTEM that continually makes you and your family money (wealth) to your kids.

Business ownership, real estate holdings and a stock portfolio are the type of things that can increase the amount of money your future generations receive.