Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

[MostReal]

can't lie...I'm pissed off right now. shoulda been a W

I really feel we better than them

 

[Trip]

Its not Woodson...its Melo. He doesnt pass the basketball. Everything stops with the ball in his hands.

 

[Sampson]

tired of mike woodsons shyt.
games like this makes me wish we had a coach like doc rivers JUST for the last 2 minutes of close games.
we literally have no offensive sets when it comes to the clutch...
if you want melo to take the shot...how about have him off a screen for once...for fukks sake
all you're doing is loading the defense up just for melo to take a tough shot every single time.

Melo waved off the screen. That's on him.

 

[ikbm]

Melo waved off the screen. That's on him.

you know what the fukk i meant....not an on ball pick and roll...
have melo runthe baseline...come off on a off ball screen...shyt thats not that obvious.
running a pick and roll with melo at the top of the key has the attention of the entire defense.
you running a pick and roll with carmelo who's not a GREAT play maker for others against one of the top 3 pick and roll defenses in the league is idiotic and stupid.

 

[Trip]

Melo waved off the screen. That's on him.

Thank you....when the ball gets in Melo's hands Woodson has zero say.

Fast forward 6 months and Woody will be taking the fall for a first round exit.

 

[ikbm]

Thank you....when the ball gets in Melo's hands Woodson has zero say.

Fast forward 6 months and Woody will be taking the fall for a first round exit.

it is on both of them and mikewoodson
we literally have 4 offensive plays total...and all of them involve an on ball screen besides the shyt where felton runs around and gets set up for a corner jumpshot along the baseline...
why not call THAT play for melo...melo may not be fast...but he's quick enough for that atleast...but no...give melo the option to run the obvious pick and roll where he could be liable to get doubled...or he could turn down the pick and take his defender 1v1 (which is what he does among the best in the league)
I'm starting to think yal are just placing blame and not watching the games.

 

[Trip]

it is on both of them and mikewoodson
we literally have 4 offensive plays total...and all of them involve an on ball screen besides the shyt where felton runs around and gets set up for a corner jumpshot along the baseline...
why not call THAT play for melo...melo may not be fast...but he's quick enough for that atleast...but no...give melo the option to run the obvious pick and roll where he could be liable to get doubled...or take his defender 1v1 (which is what he does among the best in the league)
I'm starting to think yal are just placing blame and not watching the games.

If I thought Woody had any real say I'd agree with you. Woodson was brought here to run what he ran for JJ in Atlanta. Ball screen-Iso. Post-Iso. Close games Melo is getting the ball no questions asked.

 

[MostReal]

it is on both of them and mikewoodson
we literally have 4 offensive plays total...and all of them involve an on ball screen besides the shyt where felton runs around and gets set up for a corner jumpshot along the baseline...
why not call THAT play for melo...melo may not be fast...but he's quick enough for that atleast...but no...give melo the option to run the obvious pick and roll where he could be liable to get doubled...or he could turn down the pick and take his defender 1v1 (which is what he does among the best in the league)
I'm starting to think yal are just placing blame and not watching the games.

man I ain't even bout to argue with them. Woody is the coach...he draws up the plays

 

[tremonthustler1]

Melo and Woodson are bad for each other.

Melo's gonna do Melo and Woodson won't do shyt about it.

Melo's gonna be in ISO because he has tunnel vision. He wants that shot. Woodson lets him do it because if he draws up a different play to someone else and it doesn't work, Melo's gonna be in his ass (pause). With Woodson having very little imagination, they'll keep doing this til it works.

and some nights it works, which is why no one's gonna tell Melo shyt.

 

[Boolean]

If I thought Woody had any real say I'd agree with you. Woodson was brought here to run what he ran for JJ in Atlanta. Ball screen-Iso. Post-Iso. Close games Melo is getting the ball no questions asked.

so.... Woodson is also part of the problem, right? smh

 

[ikbm]

If I thought Woody had any real say I'd agree with you. Woodson was brought here to run what he ran for JJ in Atlanta. Ball screen-Iso. Post-Iso. Close games Melo is getting the ball no questions asked.

AS HE SHOULD...HES EARNED THAT...
but if mike woodson could be a little bit more original with the WAY the ball enters melos hands we would be way more efficient in the clutch
look at the celtics the last 5 years....YOU KNEW more than likely who was taking the last shot....but the way paul pierce got the ball (ray allen to a lesser extent) wasnt completely obvious and the ball went in and out of his hands from putting the ball on teh ground to putting it in the hoop in 4 seconds or less.
they're giving melo the ball to run the clock down then call the OBVIOUS ass screen...you can see why melo would turn it down...CAUSE all that would happen on that play if he did take the screen would be him getting doubled.

 

[Trip]

AS HE SHOULD...HES EARNED THAT...

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323982704578453124219043216

 

[nomoreneveragain]

Woodson should concentrate on getting Barg looks inside 20ft

I don't have patience for Pick and Pop plays that take too long to develop that lead to nothing.

THjr can play in transition/fast break ... need to play more of that Tempo.

 

[Wargames]

Melo and Woodson are bad for each other.

Melo's gonna do Melo and Woodson won't do shyt about it.

Melo's gonna be in ISO because he has tunnel vision. He wants that shot. Woodson lets him do it because if he draws up a different play to someone else and it doesn't work, Melo's gonna be in his ass (pause). With Woodson having very little imagination, they'll keep doing this til it works.

and some nights it works, which is why no one's gonna tell Melo shyt.

Knicks need to try to keep as much of the core as possible and get another legit second option. Imagine if they had a guy like marc gasol or kevin love who if they passed the ball inside could take an easy shot in the post. it would make a lot of shyt easier.

But with that said it sucks they lost but dudes went out there and didn't bytch out and get played while on the road. for game 2 out of 82 i aint too mad about it

 

[ikbm]

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323982704578453124219043216

i dont give a fukk about that stupid ass article. elite players need the ball in the final moments.
and if you think melo isnt elite we shouldnt be talking.