Tariq Nasheed is part of the problem

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This is debunked

I've shown how illegal immigrants in even temp agencies get hired over black peoples. And the temp agencies keep losing lawsuits over it. Especially in Chicago.

It's outright racism.
 

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Then you should know, that if someone wants to find work and is on their grind, they will. I haven't seen anyone who really put in a strong effort to find work, not gain employment. And I ran a fukking ex-offender program, comprising of nothing but felons. Lets stop with the bu bu but excuses.
Finding a job is not the same as socioeconomic empowerment. There's millions of gainfully employed Americans still starving.

The programs exist as a bandaid. It is not "making excuses" to talk about whats causing the wounds and trying to stop that.
 

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Why are y'all trying to make Tariq Nasheed a leader in the black community? He did his part with educating our people with the Hidden Colors film series. He's done a lot more than a lot of his critics. I'm not a stan of his but I appreciate the good that he's doing. Kinda of funny that another Tariq thread popping up when Hidden Colors 4 is debuting within the next week or so. :francis:
No one is doing that except you all who live in extremes. There is a middle ground.
 

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Tariq appeals to a niche audience; street cats that don't really follow politics and ain't trying to hear anybody that challenges their beliefs and get into long drawn out debates about shyt

I'm yet to have run into educated, older, critically thinking black folks that rock with tariq like that. i'm sure they are out there I just don't see em.

imagine tariq calling justin beiber a white supremacist on bill maher's show; he'd get laughed off the panel.
get in your feelings if you want to but tell me i'm lying :yeshrug:

Tariq is continuing that hustle that jesse and al started from the mid 80's.
he doesn't have that big democratic machine backing him like they do, but it's the same hustle just on a smaller scale
Actually HC 3 and HC4 have actual black scholars on there.

The thing is, over time his profile has elevated immensely but a lot of what you call "prominent leaders" are too in deep in he system to speak real shyt like Tariq because they enjoy being palatable to white audiences.

Tariq has more fans than you know. Some of your most famous scholars acknowledge him on the low. But they'd have to lose money associating with him.
 

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So, because he gives the background to an issue and the genesis of it, he's not focusing on the issue at hand? I hate when small-minded people try to talk about things that are beyond them. As if a problem can truly be fixed without understanding why and how it started. As if the issues experienced in the Chicago black population, which are expansive and multi-faceted, can simply be fixed by "focusing on solutions."

If you want to discuss Chicago or any other city associated with black poverty and crime, then you must discuss it within the context of white supremacy if you're going to actually have a discussion worth having. And a discussion that can come up with solutions. Otherwise, you're wasting your time. To throw away historical, political and social context when discussing the issues facing black people would be tantamount to insinuating that black people are in the sh#thole they're in now due to their own waywardness.

That would be patently false and incredibly misleading...the same way that rhetoric used by white supremacists and c00ns is patently false and incredibly misleading when they discuss the challenges facing the black community and why the black community faces them. They purposely remove the critical context that created an environment of disenfranchisement for black people. An environment that stripped them of the basic tools needed to even compete.

When black people study the history of their people to learn from past mistakes and create new strategies, we're called bigots and castigators :francis:

When white people study the history of their people to learn from past mistakes and create new strategies, they're called historians :dame:

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serious question: did any of you cats grow up with black nationalist or even educated parents? I'm the ONLY person here that did?

this was the first book my parents put in my hands (that i still own on my bookshelf right now)
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^^^ these are the first images I remember, like...EVER (that's nat turner on the left BTW, i thought everybody knew who nat turner was as a kid).

not everybody is fascinated by Tariq like that.
no disrespect to him, he's just not dropping knowledge on me like that
we all didn't come from broken homes and had to be "taught" shyt
How old are you?

Ok. Well that's how long the last time there was a widespread documentary on black history

Not even skip gates could get as many people across the board to digest his heavily curated message.
 

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I hate how mad & judgemental Black people tend to get when a Black Man makes a living off of Black culture/awareness, but then will turn around & buy from White businesses making a killing off of Black culture/pain.....:francis:

And maybe that doesn't apply to anyone in this thread.:patrice: Maybe I'm wrong about this......... :yeshrug:

Or.........:usure:
"Let's go to the Tim Wise lecture" :troll:
 

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We never get to have these discussions though. Or if we do, it's when it's convenient for people like TN, and not when we need to have them (all the fukking time)
Violence is a problem I agree with you. It should be discussed maybe more than it is now. A lot of the people who bring it up when an unrelated controversial incident involving black people only bring it up in those types of scenarios and never any other time. Take Ray Lewis for example: he gave 0 speeches on violence in Chicago in the past but the second racial tensions started growing in another part of US all of a sudden it matters. It makes people think they don't really care about the people in Chicago being hurt and are simply using the fact that "there is violence in the southside of Chicago" it to deflect from other issues at hand.
 

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Violence is a problem I agree with you. It should be discussed maybe more than it is now. A lot of the people who bring it up when an unrelated controversial incident involving black people only bring it up in those types of scenarios and never any other time. Take Ray Lewis for example: he gave 0 speeches on violence in Chicago in the past but the second racial tensions started growing in another part of US all of a sudden it matters. It makes people think they don't really care about the people in Chicago being hurt and are simply using the fact that "there is violence in the southside of Chicago" it to deflect from other issues at hand.
This is true. But there are people who def deflect those discussions even when it's appropriate.
 

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i really wish people would do some research on the subject before they declare someone is spreading misinformation. never jump the gun on c00ning. it will back fire

because the truth is, tariq is exactly right

in 2014 during rahm emanuel re election year he implemented a youth job program that employed thousands of teenagers throughout the chicagoland area. crime dropped 40%!! record low murder rate

shortly after rahm emanuel gets re elected he cuts the program and the governor cuts millions in aid programs and organizations like cease fire got their funding taken from them, and surprise crime shoots back up.

its really not rocket science. crime has always been economic based, its why as irish italian and jewish immigrants came into the country poor, they immediately formed gangs or what white media likes to call "organized crime" and they bootlegged, extorted, murdered, sold heroin, opium, pimped etc. but this government allowed those "organizations" and crime families to build their community with those illegal funds, and along with that, they set those families up in unions and leagues so they can take over the police and fire department and the jews took over hollywood.

for us however miseducation and negative projection in multi billion dollar media, movies and music contribute further to our issues. i know you want to protect white folks at all cost, but this aint church and you cant just pray a problem goes away. this government created the environment and circumstances for the criminality, then they hid they hands and pointed the fingers at the poor and disenfranchised, and after profiling them and mass incarcerating them, used the stats after the fact to justify their mistreatment of us, after they set the circumstance up in the 1st place.

add in the fact that its 20,000 cameras across the chicagoland area, that can catch people running yellow lights and illegally send them tickets to earn billions for the city, but the same cameras cant be used to solve all these unsolved murders taking place, should hint that young black males killing each other is not that clear right now

add in the fact their is a huge mexican population in chicago that def contributes to the murder rate, but because of propaganda and agendas you see 500 murders in a city of 3 million and you immediately believe all 500 were gang related drive bys or some shyt.

and lets not talk about the organ harvesting ring that was uncovered throughout the midwest between chicago detroit and st louis. but that is another subject.

all we saying is, if we talking solutions, add in all the factors. and telling the truth is not adhering to some fake ass "personal responsibility" nonsense those who want to excuse white folks love running towards.
 
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This is debunked

I've shown how illegal immigrants in even temp agencies get hired over black peoples. And the temp agencies keep losing lawsuits over it. Especially in Chicago.

It's outright racism.

Then we need to get into industries where illegal immigrants can't break into like trucking. You need a W-4 and a social security card or birth certificate to be DOT certified. In Illinois, you now need to show the SS Card or Passport to renew or possess a CDL.

I worked in Workforce Development and there are tons of programs for the underserved. Whether you take advantage or not is on you. Ain't nobody coming to your house and handing you a job. Stop with the fukking bu bu but whitey excuses.

I've said it before on here but I drove a school bus just to have a CDL so there are opportunities. Before I found my current job, I was looking into workforce programs to upgrade my license and they were offering 10k grants for almost any trade.
 

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Then we need to get into industries where illegal immigrants can't break into like trucking. You need a W-4 and a social security card or birth certificate to be DOT certified. In Illinois, you now need to show the SS Card or Passport to renew or possess a CDL.



I've said it before on here but I drove a school bus just to have a CDL so there are opportunities. Before I found my current job, I was looking into workforce programs to upgrade my license and they were offering 10k grants for almost any trade.
It's not easy at all for a black man out here but if you have that grind in you and work for it, you can make something of your life. There are so many options out there but it's a matter of who has the drive to fight for it. See the pursuit of happiness.
 
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