The Coli Where we rank Kyle Lowry over Jason Kidd.. Scust @malta

[Art Barr]

I never said Lowry was better, I said I'd rather have him on this Raptors team. Being better doesn't mean you're a better fit, placing a ball dominant player next to DeMar, someone that plays strictly in isolation would have a huge effect on his already game. And we're talking about Nets Kidd that could not shoot and didn't play off the ball at the time.

And this spawned because this dude said the Nets could beat the Cavs. Is it trolling when I run down the list of players I'd rather have than Melo too?

Dawg,...kerry kittles thrived with kidd,....
Derozen is not getting setup at all from Lowry like kidd would have let derozen eat.


Art Barr

 

[The God Poster]

So, do you want Rondo to replace D'Angelo?

No rondo 30+


Sound like you tryna put rondo above Kidd

By your logic LMA & Draymond >>>Duncan

 

[William F. Russell]

He's a difference maker for the opposing team

Here's the thing, I don't like any of the PGs you've named. I don't like Rondo, I don't like Rubio, I don't even like Elfrid Payton...so why would it be such a surprise to people I wouldn't like Kidd? I'm not even a big fan of Chris Paul and he shoots a solid percentage, I just do not like "true PGs" at all.




Lowry is missing contested threes, Ason Kidd gonna knock them down? What would he do different? This Cavs team completely overmatches the Raptors, dudes in the other thread were acting like those garbage ass Nets teams would fare any better.

Would Lowry have been able to lead the Nets to the Finals? Would this Raptors fare any better against the Lakers?

If we're questioning whether Kidd's game would've translated well into the modern game, we must also question whether Lowry's game would've translated well to the league in Kidd's era. I think that's getting lost in this thread. And people act like Kidd hasn't proven that he could adjust to different playing styles and systems. He did the run-and-gun. He did the half-court. He put the J in his name. He went from being the main guy to second fiddle. I don't see why dudes have a hard time believing that Kidd would've done better against this team than Lowry is. It's not like Kidd hasn't helped deconstruct LeBron before.

But I hear where you're coming from. Your preference is your preference.

 

[Malta]

Dawg,...kerry kittles thrived with kidd,....
Derozen is not getting setup at all from Lowry like kidd would have let derozen eat.


Art Barr

Kittles could shoot, Demar cant.

No rondo 30+


Sound like you tryna put rondo above Kidd

By your logic LMA & Draymond >>>Duncan

Right now, yes Draymond and LMA > a 40 year old Duncan.


So if Rondo was still in his prime you'd take him over D'angelo

 

[Thegospel]

2001-02 New Jersey Nets
2002-03 New Jersey Nets
2003-04 New Jersey Nets
2004-05 New Jersey Nets
2005-06 New Jersey Nets
2006-07 New Jersey Nets
2007-08 New Jersey Nets

Stats dont always tell the story. The fact that you downplay finals appearances is disturbing.

 

[Liquid]

I stand by everything I say, I said I'd rather have Lowry on this Raptors team than Kidd and that the Nets team was trash

Sorry man, JKidd in his prime recognizes that the offense needs to get Valanciunas involved more.

Meanwhile dumb as rocks Lowry and DeRozan think they are going to get anywhere with how they play. They are the definition of a regular season team.

Kidd recognizing the strengths of the team and orchestrating it is much better (important) than the field goal percentage advantage that Lowry has...AND YOU KNOW THIS

STOP TROLLING

 

[Regular_P]

I never said Lowry was better, I said I'd rather have him on this Raptors team. Being better doesn't mean you're a better fit, placing a ball dominant player next to DeMar, someone that plays strictly in isolation would have a huge effect on his already game. And we're talking about Nets Kidd that could not shoot and didn't play off the ball at the time.

And this spawned because this dude said the Nets could beat the Cavs. Is it trolling when I run down the list of players I'd rather have than Melo too?

I was never the biggest Kidd fan and I would still take him over Lowry on this exact same Raptors team. Even if Derozan's game suffers, which doesn't even matter considering how he's shooting, Kidd could at least push the pace and get this team a few more easy buckets each game.

They still wouldn't beat this Cavs team, but they'd be better. Lowry's shooting 36%/26% in the playoffs, so that's right in line with Nets Kidd. He's not bringing any positives at the moment. He's Smush Parker with a green light.

 

[Thegospel]

And kidd doesmt compare to guys like Rondo and Paul. Kidd didnt pound the ball like that. He was more like Magic than those other guys.

 

[Malta]

Sorry man, JKidd in his prime recognizes that the offense needs to get Valanciunas involved more.

Meanwhile dumb as rocks Lowry and DeRozan think they are going to get anywhere with how they play. They are the definition of a regular season team.

Kidd recognizing the strengths of the team and orchestrating it is much better (important) than the field goal percentage advantage that Lowry has...AND YOU KNOW THIS

STOP TROLLING

Valanciunas is out

 

[Archangel]

Mine eyes hath surely been deceived . I am a fan of @Malta 's posting but thine opinion hath utterly disgusted me on the matter.

 

[Art Barr]

I never said Lowry was better, I said I'd rather have him on this Raptors team. Being better doesn't mean you're a better fit, placing a ball dominant player next to DeMar, someone that plays strictly in isolation would have a huge effect on his already game. And we're talking about Nets Kidd that could not shoot and didn't play off the ball at the time.

And this spawned because this dude said the Nets could beat the Cavs. Is it trolling when I run down the list of players I'd rather have than Melo too?

Wait a minute,....
nikka Melo ain't never had no coach that could ever get him anywhere.
Even when that team did get somewhere they were doomed to fail.
All because standard x's and o's and actual bball pedigree and George Karl does not even really exist.

As Karl is just as and more dim witted than don nelson.
except nelson has a hardware to backup his ineptitude and style.

If Melo is coached by someone who knows what they are doing Melo is worth his weight in gold.


Art Barr

 

[Malta]

I was never the biggest Kidd fan and I would still take him over Lowry on this exact same Raptors team. Even if Derozan's game suffers, which doesn't even matter considering how he's shooting, Kidd could at least push the pace and get this team more a few more easy buckets each game.

They still wouldn't beat this Cavs team, but they'd be better. Lowry's shooting 36%/26% in the playoffs, so that's right in line with Nets Kidd. He's not bringing any positives at the moment. He's Smush Parker with a green light.

The Raptors would be getting their head stomped out with Kidd, yall are acting like he'd go out there and average 30 to keep it close, cause that's the only way the Raps stay within 10 of this Cavs team.


Pass first PGs outside of Magic are just the epitome of to me.

 

[Broke Wave]

Really coulda used J kidd circa 2002

 

[Liquid]

Valanciunas is out

Yeah he is out NOW. I can't remember what game it was in where Derozan and Lowry shot the ball like 50 times at a terrible percentage. Missing free throws left and right...them dudes were trash all game and Lowry tried to hit a ridiculous step back 3 on top of it to finish the game.

Kidd would have distributed it more and no doubt would have this team playing better.

You are trolling, but props on getting the board riled up as the Cavs destroy the Raptors on ESPN.

 

[nyknick]

Jason Kidd right now > Lowry today