Says the dude that said Jason Kidd ran fluid offenses. I think it is you whose analysis is "way off". You remember things differently to how they actually went down.
What a load of nonsense. You're just dressing up his faults with shyt that didn't have any meaningful impact on the game. I watched the Nets and went to Nets games regularly when I was younger - I even went back over those games (over multiple seasons) a few years ago to see the differences/changes at the PG position. One of the most glaring things was how much of a detriment that Kidd was to his teams' offenses. My opinion and view of his game is the polar opposite to what it was when I was younger.
I think a lot of people would be better served to entertain the possibility that their view of the game and players isn't quite right.
Yes. Offensive rating. Do I need to hold your hand to walk you through this?
You are dead wrong about this one. You are comparing Kidd to Lowry but citing comparisons of teams without normalizing for other factors. Then you are accusing me of "misremembering" .. based on what exactly? You don't get to write the conclusion and expect people to accept the facts to support it. You also do not get to accuse me of overrating past players. If anything, you are going off the deep end the other way by systematically rejecting past players.
Here is what I observed of Prime Kidd and the Nets: KIdd could not shoot, but he found open shooters and slashers. He controlled the pace of the game which was INSTRUMENTAL to their defense being effective. It was similar to how the 2001 Lakers defense was dependent on Pace, which was dependent on feeding the post. Kidd also made key steals, key passes, key deflections in crunch time. He was a highly talented player with a glaring flaw that he worked around.
NOw, if you want to argue Tony Parker is greater than Kidd, i would agree. But you are talking about Kyle fukking Lowry. His own mother wouldn't claim he was better than prime Kidd. At least with
@Malta, he is thematically consistent? He does not like high usage rate PG's. You, on the other hand seem to favor offensive efficacy without explaining or accounting for a simple fact: The Raptors offense is fukking retarded. You can point to the overall numbers all you want, but watching Lowry and Derozan taking turns on iso's is effective offense?
Additionally, your claim is not supported by your cited information because you have failed to delineate causality between your view of Kidd and the numbers you are citing. If you are comparing individual players, what is the proper basis for comparison? Team Success? Individual stats? VORP? PER? YOu have not set any foundation for your claim.
He dominated the ball, I don't like those kid of PGs, could you ever see him having to play with DeRozan someone that needs to isolate?