Yea they only want presentable looking mutants in their presence.I think they're the Molocks.........and true tht breh. Lol even other mutants hit them with the
The hatred for Mutants in the Marvel Universe has never made sense to me
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Mr. Somebody
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Um, friend, thats reed richards, not franklin. Marvel corporate uses Franklin richards to maintain the status quo of the marvel universe.He stopped Dr. Doom in Secret Wars, friend.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Not to mention, they are dangerous. Some have simple shyt like growing wings, others can't even look straight without ruby quartz lenses.
And again people...yes...RACISM in of itself is irrational...that's the point. A quick trip to the Deep South in this country would really illustrate this point. There are people in this world who literally blame black people for problems in this country that have NOTHING to do with black people.
Have ya'll never seen the "Thanks Obama" memes???
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She better know
EDIT: @BXKingPin82, on some real shyt that's exactly what I was talking about in my previous post. The X-men came out in the '60s and Storm in was created in the mid-70's. She literally could've been in the situation you've described and her powers would've had nothing to do with it. Hell, they most likely wouldn't even know that she had them.
Hence why the civil rights metaphor, as well-intentioned as it was, never worked for me.
It wasn't until the mid 70's when Chris Claremont started working on them where they became all about Civil Rights, having a diverse international team and looking physically different from regular humans. Beast went from White to Blue.
X-MEN and Mutants in the 1960's = Communist and the Red Scare threat to America.
The whole Mutants = Black People thing has always fallen apart because they have super-powers which rationalise the paranoia and skepticism towards them. They clearly are a possible threat and ahead of your normal human, you can't equate having powers to skin colour differences. The allegory can work with oddly looking groups like The Inhumans who look distinctly different and visibly standout, but a group of people who look completely normal with the distinction being super powers that they can switch on and off like a tap FOH
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
And sometimes they make a good point to that allegory.......other times not so muchIt wasn't until the mid 70's when Chris Claremont started working on them where they became all about Civil Rights, having a diverse international team and looking physically different from regular humans. Beast went from White to Blue.
X-MEN and Mutants in the 1960's = Communist and the Red Scare threat to America.
The whole Mutants = Black People thing has always fallen apart because they have super-powers which rationalise the paranoia and skepticism towards them. They clearly are a possible threat and ahead of your normal human, you can't equate having powers to skin colour differences. The allegory can work with oddly looking groups like The Inhumans who look distinctly different and visibly standout, but a group of people who look completely normal with the distinction being super powers that they can switch on and off like a tap FOH
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
the mutants represent Black people.
Xavier = Dr King
Magneto = Malcolm X
With much respect, the black people in the MU represented black people.
Birnin Zana
Honorary Wakandan
It wasn't until the mid 70's when Chris Claremont started working on them where they became all about Civil Rights, having a diverse international team and looking physically different from regular humans. Beast went from White to Blue.
X-MEN and Mutants in the 1960's = Communist and the Red Scare threat to America.
The whole Mutants = Black People thing has always fallen apart because they have super-powers which rationalise the paranoia and skepticism towards them. They clearly are a possible threat and ahead of your normal human, you can't equate having powers to skin colour differences. The allegory can work with oddly looking groups like The Inhumans who look distinctly different and visibly standout, but a group of people who look completely normal with the distinction being super powers that they can switch on and off like a tap FOH
Cosign the bold.
I don't think anyone is arguing that in general the X-Men and the anti-mutant stuff represents racism. What we are saying is that it doesn't hold much water in the context of the greater marvel Universe where damn near everyone and their mom has super-powers.Not to mention, they are dangerous. Some have simple shyt like growing wings, others can't even look straight without ruby quartz lenses.
And again people...yes...RACISM in of itself is irrational...that's the point. A quick trip to the Deep South in this country would really illustrate this point. There are people in this world who literally blame black people for problems in this country that have NOTHING to do with black people.
Have ya'll never seen the "Thanks Obama" memes???
If the fear and paranoia over mutants is supposed to be so great then every super-human in the Marvel U should be looked at like
because Joe Q. Public should be assuming anyone in spandex is a mutant.
Damnn you're right. My bad got my Richards mixed up.
Mr. Somebody
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Plus repDamnn you're right. My bad got my Richards mixed up.
Concerned Citizen
Stevie Wonder 2099
It's due to how the powers came about. The general public fears mutants because they are a genetic offshoot of regular people and could lead to their enslavement or extinction. In the comics they always compared normal human and mutants to Neanderthals and modern man. One groups expansion led to the extinction of the other.
Meanwhile other non-mutant heroes didn't get the same amount of hate because they weren't a group increasing in number to the point where they would Poe a threat to resources and most of them got their powers in freak accidents or through intentional experimentation. This meant that in theory ANY normal human under the right circumstances could get accidental or scientifically granted powers but only the special few were born mutants. It's like people having love for self-made millionaires but hating trust fund kids.
Meanwhile other non-mutant heroes didn't get the same amount of hate because they weren't a group increasing in number to the point where they would Poe a threat to resources and most of them got their powers in freak accidents or through intentional experimentation. This meant that in theory ANY normal human under the right circumstances could get accidental or scientifically granted powers but only the special few were born mutants. It's like people having love for self-made millionaires but hating trust fund kids.
BaldingSoHard
Veteran
BaldingSoHard
Veteran
Got Damn some mutants got it bad for real. Like this poor mofo who's power is 6 six of extra skin......... so basically his mutant power is to be fat b*stard from austin powers post surgery
Or beak..........who is an epic failure without his flight suit
Just looked up Beak... breh...
What a miserable life...
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Breh................ even when he did get laid and got his chick pregnant this is the shyt he done produced. Its like they wanted like they want us to be anti mutantJust looked up Beak... breh...
What a miserable life...
Why does it have to be so blatantly spelled out with some of you? "They have to look completely different for the allegory of racism and bigotry to be valid"? No it does not. Most people don't want a message mixed in their entertainment, too bad because there are artists and creatives out here who do just that. It's not obvious on the surface, because at the end of the day they are still trying to make money, if you learn something along the way about how Europeans and people of caucasian descent have treated people of color across this entire face of the earth from a comic book, you're better off for it. A lot you get caught up in the fact of not wanted to be made to feel guilty about anything. Thing is, no one is telling you to feel guilty, you're just being shown the human condition and thought process with all of its warts and imperfections. Except the ones being feared and hated on where colorful costumes. It was groundbreaking to have Storm in a comic book, but they had her being a thief in the when she originally came from African royalty. And they done that with a few other Black superheroes as well.
Point is, if the creator of Marvel says it's about civil rights, take his word for it, because he would know better than anybody else.
Point is, if the creator of Marvel says it's about civil rights, take his word for it, because he would know better than anybody else.