She hates Trump. She also hated Hilary. She likes Berniethis clown man...
I wonder what yvette carnell has to say about this :MAGApls:
Trump to possibly end HBCU federal financing program stating it's unconstitutional
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Kyle Barker
Superstar
The same guy who the justice department sued because he did not want them in his apt.Trust a 70 year old, filthy rich, mentally unstable, racist con man brehs
UpAndComing
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I have a feeling you don't even understand the portions you highlighted.Did you read the articles you posted or just the headline?
Lets take it line by line:
Lets start here
Congress has passed this omnibus bill and Trump has already signed it. This is what prevented the shutdown that was in the news.
However, he has released a signing statement that states he will not allocate funds using power as an executive and in one portion of the signing statement, he highlights spending in the bill for HBCUs to maintain their facilities. He states this is unconstitutional and is essentially racist because it is targetted towards one race.
Now on to the stuff you bolded and misunderstood.
Trump is saying he will use a constitutional argument that the HBCUs are inherently race based and targetting them with specific federal dollars would be racist. Later in the article, someone makes the argument that HBCU designation is not based on race but on historical significance. So its weird to say that HBCUS are created specifically for racial issue and thus denying them funds under constitutional means. He is basically making the standard cac argument "Why do you have BET? What if I made wet?".
Previous presidents have also made signing statements for bills they signed from thet house stating they will ignore parts of the law. This is true. But in this sentence it does not say it was done for funding of HBCUs and Native education. This is a first and more than likely its because Trump is a motherfukking racist or his racist ass AG sessions and/or racist Chief of Staff Steve Bannon coerced him to write this signing statement.
This just means more people will get fukked. Trump fancies himself after Andrew Jackson, so of course he has to fukk natives.
The irony here is that you seemingly read the article and still didn't understand it and then you're coming at me with snarky ass comments.
You don't want to cosign breh. He doesn't even understand what he read. I helped him out above though.
lol...
This is such a backwards ass excuse. Wouldn't the more logical solution be to work with HBCUs to increase enrollment and THEN take away this financing program?
Once again you guys give white daddy a huge benefit of the doubt. He even states that his reason for taking this funding away was not to "encourage enrollment in HBCUs to minimize reliance on federal dollars". As I said, he is using the standard cac argument "if I made HWCUs it would be racists, so HBCUs are racist. If I made WET it would be racist so BET is racist".
Also, universities spend money on facilities to make it more attractive for students to enroll. You take away this funding, this will lead to more facility decay and DISCOURAGE people from enrolling in the future.
You get doublefukked. Not only do you lose the money to help maintain facilities but now people are less likely to go to your school because it looks a bit shytty.
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I'm glad America is coming to terms with what it really is.
If ever there was a time for separation, this is it.
I have a feeling you don't even understand the portions you highlighted.
Lets take it line by line:
Lets start here
Congress has passed this omnibus bill and Trump has already signed it. This is what prevented the shutdown that was in the news.
However, he has released a signing statement that states he will not allocate funds using power as an executive and in one portion of the signing statement, he highlights spending in the bill for HBCUs to maintain their facilities. He states this is unconstitutional and is essentially racist because it is targetted towards one race.
Now on to the stuff you bolded and misunderstood.
Trump is saying he will use a constitutional argument that the HBCUs are inherently race based and targetting them with specific federal dollars would be racist. Later in the article, someone makes the argument that HBCU designation is not based on race but on historical significance. So its weird to say that HBCUS are created specifically for racial issue and thus denying them funds under constitutional means. He is basically making the standard cac argument "Why do you have BET? What if I made wet?".
Previous presidents have also made signing statements for bills they signed from thet house stating they will ignore parts of the law. This is true. But in this sentence it does not say it was done for funding of HBCUs and Native education. This is a first and more than likely its because Trump is a motherfukking racist or his racist ass AG sessions and/or racist Chief of Staff Steve Bannon coerced him to write this signing statement.
This just means more people will get fukked. Trump fancies himself after Andrew Jackson, so of course he has to fukk natives.
The irony here is that you seemingly read the article and still didn't understand it and then you're coming at me with snarky ass comments.
No nikka I understand the article and pointed out the contradiction between the details and the headline
The Headline should read minorities as a whole since the races specified aren't African Americans instead it says HBCUs
Not to mention Cheryl Smith clearly states she isn't clear about the provision since the minorities listed aren't black
It wasn't hard to comprehend at all my g.. the headline is click bait and I can tell half of the nikkas who responded didn't read it by their .2
BmoreGorilla
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How is it a backwards excuse ? Did these institutions not thrive at one point with little federal and state aid? The fact that we're getting upset over handouts from the government is a problem within itself. If we supported our own we wouldn't need it in the first place. These institutions have been decaying becuz we stopped going plain and simple
b_low_brown
Daddyface
They rather find a single person to blame and demonize as that's easier than formulating a feasible solution.
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
you clearly didn't comprehendTrump suggests financing program for historically black colleges may be unconstitutional
By MICHAEL STRATFORD
05/05/17 07:55 PM EDT
President Donald Trump signaled Friday that he may not implement a 25-year-old federal program that helps historically black colleges finance construction projects on their campuses, suggesting that it may run afoul of the Constitution.
In a signing statement on the $1.1 trillion omnibus government spending bill, Trump singled out the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program as an example of provisions in the funding bill “that allocate benefits on the basis of race, ethnicity, and gender.”
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Trump said his administration would treat those programs “in a manner consistent with the requirement to afford equal protection of the law under the Due Process Clause of the Constitution’s Fifth Amendment.”’
Previous presidents, including Barack Obama and George W. Bush, often issued such statements when they signed legislation to signal they might ignore or disregard parts of laws passed by Congress.
In his signing statement, Trump outlines a range of provisions in the spending bill that he says would “unconstitutionally” limit his authority as commander in chief — and indicates that where the bill conflicts with the White House’s interpretation of the president’s powers under the Constitution, he will go with the Constitution.
Neither the White House, nor the Education Department immediately responded to a request for comment.
Trump’s statement also suggests concern about programs listed under the “School Improvement Programs” section of the budget. Those include a wide range of education-related programs, such as after-school initiatives and programs that support Native Hawaiian and Alaska Native education.
OP why is that the headline? ^
Trump pushes back on lawmakers’ attempt to rein in his powers
By AUSTIN WRIGHT
Advocates for HBCUs and a legal expert said they were confused by the reference to the HBCU financing program.
Cheryl Smith, senior vice president of public policy and government affairs at the United Negro College Fund, also known as UNCF, which advocates for private HBCUs, said in a statement that the organization is “puzzled by this provision and seeking clarification from the White House as to its meaning.”
Smith noted that the federal designation of an institution as an HBCU is not based on race, but rather on mission, accreditation status and the year the institution was established.” She speculated that the “signing statement may simply be the Office of Management and Budget being overly cautious and perhaps not fully understanding this important distinction as it relates to HBCUs, but UNCF needs more information regarding their thinking and intent.”
Under the program, which was created by Congress in 1992, the Education Department provides federally-backed loans to historically black colleges and universities for the construction of buildings and other facilities. The bill provides $20 million in federal loan subsidies in fiscal year 2017 to support as much as $282 million worth of financing to the schools.
Derek W. Black, a law professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law who studies constitutional and education law, called Trump’s reference to the HBCU program “rather odd.”
“If Congress is validly spending money on these programs, and there’s no court finding or litigation suggesting discrimination, the idea that the executive would unilaterally not allocate those funds would be a rather momentous position to take.” Black said.
Did you read the articles you posted or just the headline?
In a signing statement on the $1.1 trillion omnibus government spending bill, Trump singled out the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program as an example of provisions in the funding bill “that allocate benefits on the basis of race, ethnicity, and gender.”
THIS PART:
Previous presidents, including Barack Obama and George W. Bush, often issued such statements when they signed legislation to signal they may ignore or disregard parts of laws passed by Congress.
simply means other presidents signaled PARTS THEY WOULD IGNORE OR DISREGARD
so yes... presidents pick and choose which parts to disregard... BUT TRUMP CHOSE TO PICK HBCU'S AS THE PART HE SINGLED OUT... the other presidents did not
hence why in the second article.. several people involved are questioning why he'd single HBCU's when no other president did
but good try with the spin
you clearly didn't comprehend
In a signing statement on the $1.1 trillion omnibus government spending bill, Trump singled out the Historically Black College and University Capital Financing Program as an example of provisions in the funding bill “that allocate benefits on the basis of race, ethnicity, and gender.”
THIS PART:
Previous presidents, including Barack Obama and George W. Bush, often issued such statements when they signed legislation to signal they may ignore or disregard parts of laws passed by Congress.
simply means other presidents signaled PARTS THEY WOULD IGNORE OR DISREGARD
so yes... presidents pick and choose which parts to disregard... BUT TRUMP CHOSE TO PICK HBCU'S AS THE PART HE SINGLED OUT... the other presidents did not
hence why in the second article.. several people involved are questioning why he'd single HBCU's when no other president did
but good try with the spin
Nah the article is trying to incite that he forget it but the details aren't clear hence Cheryl Smiths skepticism
No spin needed the title of the article should be broad
Once again you misunderstood what you read
No..that isn't what she is saying. She is saying that the White House saying that federal dollars going towards HBCU's is racist doesn't make sense because HBCU designation isn't race based. Its based on historical significance. She is saying that the signing statement put out by the white house is non-sense essentially and doesn't understand why the white house has targetted HBCUs.
Want to criticize the media for the headline and not being more general, that is cool. But you came at me accusing me of not reading my own article. I even highlighted the Native defunding in my original post. You quoted it
. However, I'm black, most people here are black, and you had a bunch of dikk slobbering from supposedly black people here over a meeting with HBCU deans a month or so ago. So highlighting HBCUs in this thread makes the most sense.
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
yea cause why would a school need new construction
who needs things like new dorms, new classrooms, new library's, new labs to compete with historically white colleges
yes there needs to be a huge push.. but if i'm accept to howard AND duke, why in the holy fukk would i go to a school with less money, worse funding and a degree that's going to be seen as less than? for the betterment of the school while my life is worse off?
HBCU's need this type of funding if they are going to compete with other colleges.. who by the way, receive the same federal funds