Ugandan 2nd Gen Immigrant Realized Whites Treat Africans Better Than AAs

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Facts. Exact same thing happened to me. Think it's down to novelty factor, assuming i have money and/or education and the fact i'm only visiting.

To be clear. White people in the West do this. A foreign black is treated better than the local black.

AA's get the same when they move/travel. Like seriously brehs come to London and you'll be hit with the heavy KRS gif. Make you say dumb shyt like Coates did about blacks in Paris. nikka it will be sweet for you, it's not sweet for the local blacks.

This issue is the majority of Black Americans don't have the luxury to travel like that - no matter the discount/specials.

Out of the people in my large family - I can count on hand who has passports and traveled internationally. The men who have -- including my father brother were in the military.

The point is -- we are not immigrating or living in other countries like that. Most of us never leave the U.S. and sadly their home state - so that's great we are treated better there -- but here we are treated like the lowest of the low -- and all immigrants - Black or not -- know that and have to problem joining in to feel like they have a one up on Black Americans/DOS.
 

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They already do. They're included in affirmative action college enrollment which takes away opportunities from Black Americans. It's an issue that has heated up at Cornell.
Yvette actually mentioned Cornell in the video. I'd wished people would've watched it because it seems like they arguing two different things in the thread. They're arguing race and not nationality and heritage. I don't see how anyone can disagree that AAs are entitled solely to the programs they fought for largely by themselves in this country. Yvette pulled the data and it's presented in the video. Nobody not saying we aren't in the same racial group but our history isn't the same we didn't choose to leave our nation and come here. People have so much pride in their nation's country but still feel the need to come here it's a bit oxymoronic but they should be allowed to come here if they so choose.
 
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In general, I believe the African diaspora needs to work better together.

HOWEVER - as a British black breh. I have to say, AA's need to draw some type of line between themselves and direct Africans. Direct Africans have a advantage over AA's in a few ways in the USA. Especially the rich ones and the ones "closer" to Africa. Like a son of a Nigerian Uber driver in NY probably gets treated exactly like a AA breh. There's no advantage to be had.

But IMO people like Issa Rae (father a Senagalese Doctor) and Obama do not accurately reflect the AA experience. Their positions have not come from being DOS in the USA and overcoming it in the very same country YET they still reap all of the support and any protections as AA's and it is unfair. Barack Obama is not an AA at all ethnically.

Once I heard Obama talking at that HBCU running that bootstraps rhetoric, talking down to graduate AA's I lost the little respect I did have for him. He's not even from your cloth but he's using his skin colour to fool you to run white talking points.
 

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Yvette actually mentioned Cornell in the video. I'd wished people would've watched it because it seems like they arguing two different things in the thread. They're arguing race and not nationality and heritage. I don't see how anyone can disagree that AAs are entitled solely to the programs they fought for largely by themselves in this country. Yvette pulled the data and it's presented in the video. Nobody not saying we aren't in the same racial group but our history isn't the same we didn't choose to leave our nation and come here. People have so much pride in their nation's country but still feel the need to come here it's a bit oxymoronic but they should be allowed to come here if they so choose.
I agree with this but it becomes difficult to manager. The proximity to AA changes through time and depending on the country. Where do you place a second generation Haitian with no money? A second generation Nigerian of a cab driver?

I think awareness is the key. That not all black is equal in the US and we need to act accordingly.
 

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Lick cac's ass and shyt on your brothers breh smh.

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I agree with this but it becomes difficult to manager. The proximity to AA changes through time and depending on the country. Where do you place a second generation Haitian with no money? A second generation Nigerian of a cab driver?

I think awareness is the key. That not all black is equal in the US and we need to act accordingly.
I'd tell em to sign up for programs designated specifically to immigrants and use that money to parlay into your own nation. We can be sympathetic to each other struggles. I don't think this thread was AAs trying to attack anybody just pointing out how this effects them.
 

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Please, you negroes are no different from the pack. :mjlol: You guys can't even stop whitey from gentrifying your neighborhood. Ya can't even stop your schools from being closed by the government and you have the black caucus as your representation. :mjlol: I can create a list of tap-dancing African Americans that are famous and allowed themselves to be used by their white daddy to denigrate the black race and undermine any black progressive movement a la Jesse Peterson, Larry Elder, Charles Barkely, Stacy Dash, etc. These AA c00ns are visible and spew vitrolic of the black race even your AA darling, Raven Symone, don't want no parts of her heritage. Also, it's AA who dont want Sharpton to speak for them. AA killed Malcolm and another brother had Fred Hampton assassinated. It was an AA mayor of Detroit that told Dr. Claud Anderson that he can't build an economic base for black people because it will exclude other minority. :hhh: That Uncle Tom in the Supreme court voted against the Voting Rights :picard: AA need to stop acting like they dont have sellouts.


So, you are bringing Black Americans not being able to stop gentrification and taking over their neighborhoods to the topic presented by OP.

Deflection....

PLEASE educate yourselves UGH.

Learn about and -- as someone on this thread said "GRASP" about Black codes and Redlining -- as THIS IS WHY since Reconstruction, Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement -- and even NOW we haven't successfully been able to do that. But, don't get it twisted many of us have.

On Gentrification/Blacks Owning Our Neighborhoods:
My parents own rental properties. Even now that my father has passed -- we still do. They own the homes in the Black areas of my county/city --and most of them are on the block/neighborhood I was born and raised till elementary on - but where my sibling all grew up at and other extended family members still stay.

This neighborhood is Black owned and occupied -- it has been since the 70's. BUT, due to police not patrolling the area, due to a junk yard being down the street allowing anyone to sell them aluminum siding, and other home metal items -- in addition too: no jobs in the state/city, no/limited extracurricular activities, limited playgrounds -- homes have been destroyed and on the decline. Our home wasn't the only on the block to be greatly damaged - many to the point of vacancy -- which led to them being demolished - then into a vacant lot ready to be resold to the city.

The city doesn't even mow/take care of those vacant lots - they don't even TRY to help do the minimum ish those who are owners in that neighborhood pay property taxes for. My 65 year-old mother (and her children -- when in town) are out there every summer mowing vacant lots and planting flowers and trees to try to bring back the neighborhood we care about.

Now, most of those neighbors there are in the process of losing their homes they inherited from their parents due to high property taxes or water bill liens in a worn down area. Michigan has HIGH water cost. So, they can't pay their water bill it gets attached to their property tax + late fees -- then they can't pay (as most are usually behind a year or two on taxes) and they lose their home.

This is common.

On Schools Closing:
Did you know that property taxes pay for schools? So, in order to keep schools funded and properly open in our neighborhoods -- property taxes would need to be paid. MOST people in our neighborhoods are renting -- or if they own -- they are behind on taxes or older -- so they can opt out of education/school taxes -- and most are just trying to just KEEP their house.

So, if a community doesn't have any ownership - it aint too much white people and our elected officials can do for them. They don't care. Those Black Americans are then forced to put their children in schools on the other side of town (white ones -- who don't like them being brought in) -- or they leave their child in a terrible situation educate wise -- which most choose to do for many reasons.

ON HBCU's: By the time we graduate -- most are in debt and are not getting jobs or in the position to give back. Also, the immigrants that greatly benefit from HBCU's - -are they giving back for the opps they were given to be educated there? I doubt it. Look at Morehouse School of Medicine -- it's filled with immigrants -- some not even Black - who get the education/spot -- use the opp and bounce. My ex went to Medical school there - his Trinidad friend -- went right back to Trinidad.

On the Black Caucus: The Black Caucus is NOT for Black Americans/DOS only. You do see Kamala Harris (not Black), Corey Booker (Bi-racial/Not Black) right? You have read their history and agenda correct? If you have, you know those reps -- and the Black Caucus can not be exclusive to the systemic needs of Black Americans/DOS. Many cause they don't want too and because they are NOT DOS/Black American -- but mixed - with non-Black parents/families. So, why would they care about FULL Black Americans/DOS.

On Famous Black Americans/Celebs: Again, they don't represent Black America -- or the everyday Black American.

On Black Americans who are not productive to our struggle: Nothing we can do about them but try to educate them on it -- and to stop attacking each other -- but as you already know this happens with every group of people -- even immigrants. Look at their countries - it aint all love.

Why try to push blame on those in our community who do this -- as we know why they do. Lack of education and knowledge of how our history affects us today. Or wants to just forget it all because they are defeated and don't see any change coming. Or have non-Black mates/family members or have bought into the American Dream lie.

Basically, our representatives and even Black American Celebs/Figures -- have to be inclusive -- or they get push back and pushed out -- like those in this thread -- we have to think of everyone and not exclusively for Black people in this country since day one.
 
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I live in the DC area and I've noticed the dynamic of black people vs. everybody. :hubie:The only black people who live in MoCo, NoVa tend to be extremely whitewashed negroes who embody Carlton Banks. Predictably, most Africans stay on the west side of the beltway in Sliver Spring and not in PG County or DC east of 13th Street.

I think it's funny how Ethiopians from Silver Spring try to act down when it's convenient. :hhh: 90%+ Africans in MoCo and NoVa are like wiggers to me. Whiteboys in Baltimore are 10x more hood than any soft ass Ethiopian from Silver Spring making struggle rap videos talking about shipping bricks down Georgia. Like shyt the fukk up, I know your parents own like 10 gas stations. :russ:Africans tend to be like Asians out here but Africans take it to another level because they get to fake like they are hood and black when it's convenient :stopitslime:. But you can't stereotype all Africans just like you can't stereotype all Asians. Where I'm from in the Bay, hella Southeast Asians (i.e.Cambodians, Hmong) don't play and they come from the struggle of the inner cities, poverty etc. Just like how Liberians tend to be the gutter Africans.
 

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In general, I believe the African diaspora needs to work better together.

HOWEVER - as a British black breh. I have to say, AA's need to draw some type of line between themselves and direct Africans. Direct Africans have a advantage over AA's in a few ways in the USA. Especially the rich ones and the ones "closer" to Africa. Like a son of a Nigerian Uber driver in NY probably gets treated exactly like a AA breh. There's no advantage to be had.

But IMO people like Issa Rae (father a Senagalese Doctor) and Obama do not accurately reflect the AA experience. Their positions have not come from being DOS in the USA and overcoming it in the very same country YET they still reap all of the support and any protections as AA's and it is unfair. Barack Obama is not an AA at all ethnically.

Once I heard Obama talking at that HBCU running that bootstraps rhetoric, talking down to graduate AA's I lost the little respect I did have for him. He's not even from your cloth but he's using his skin colour to fool you to run white talking points.


Word is he only got that slot because he doesn't have slave blood.


And you saw how he did nothing for AAs when compared to LGBT :hubie:
 

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Cory booker is black:mjlol:

Even if he is -- which I am glad to hear -- doesn't mean he is -- nor can he be -- exclusive and only represent/work on the needs of Black Americans/DOS and the effects of systematic oppression and racism our families have dealt with since day one.
 
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