Wade vs Kobe: Who's better?

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Kobe may very well be the #2 SG ever but it’s amusing how at every turn you Kobe stans can bring up Lebron’s struggles...so often pointing out whatever flaws he may have, and yet any failure or setback that Kobe may have had in his career, you casually dismiss as the fault of anyone-not-named-Kobe.

You’re like the Fox News of sports fans.

"Kobe would never let dallas beat him "

*ignores the lakers getting swept by that same team while Kobe had a terrible series :laughingphil:

"The refs gifted Miami that title and babied Wade like nobody before "

*ignores game 7 in 2000 against the blazers, game 6 vs the kings, and Kobe having 25 free throws in 3 quarters against that same mavericks team*

"Kobe would never shrink in the moment "

*ignores Kobe making 12 of his last 47 shots in the 2000 finals, disregards the entire 2004 finals, ignores games 4 and 6 of the 2008 finals, and argues that game 7 performance against Boston was a good one*

no lies told

 

[ALonelyDad]

Kobe is the better player and it’s not even close. Most would have him top 8-12 while Wade is near top 20 with guys catching up soon. He had good 2 games, people forget how bad he was for bulls and was struggling a lot this season too.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Lol, the coli truly is trash nowadays.

 

[Ben.]

One Knee GoatbePrime Bron

I mean there's also '04 Kobe.....

 

[Young Fab]

Naw breh. All those games were close and lebron’s poor performance is the biggest part of why they didn’t win. It’s interesting though, cause 4 rings and 2 FMVP with a 3 peat(assuming Miami still wins 2012 and 2013) makes this debate much closer and us Kobe stans would have to admit that

Thank goodness for lebron that Dallas serieshe did Kobe stans a solid

Wade having 4 rings and 2 fmvps with a 3 peat to Kobe’s 5 rings 2 FMVPs with a 3peat would of made this a lot more closer

I'm not refuting dat, my point still stands tho.

 

[BarackStar]

The only ring Wade got without a top 5 all time player in his prime on his team was blatantly given to him by the refs in the middle of the Tim Donoughy shyt
nikka getting 30 FTs a game and shyt cut it out

Both were on the olympic team in 08 wade was still in his prime and Kobe was at the end of his with multiple years of injury piling up and what happen when the team started choking? Everybody deferred to Kobe. Wade know kobe better you dikkriders just love to ride dikk and think cause you hating it makes it ok.

 

[BarackStar]

I'll say it again, Kobe got clamped by the Pistons while they had no answer for Wade

Wade was able to carry and older Shaq and worse overall team past us than Kobe with a younger Shaq and better team

Wrong. You a fakkit for even saying this. Talking about "us" lol smfh

Shaq/Kobe lost to the prime Piston team in 04..with their bench intact..with Larry Brown coaching..with the rules not changed to stop them

Wade "beat" the Pistons after all that shyt had changed they were not the same team at all and the league blatantly changed the rules to slow them down because casuals like yourself were complaining about them holding teams to 70pts a game and shyt. Once again this is with wade getting blatant cheat calls averaging 30FTS a game and shyt the shyt was just as bad in the finals..the refs won that series then won the next one against Dallas

 

[number21]

Both were on the olympic team in 08 wade was still in his prime and Kobe was at the end of his with multiple years of injury piling up and what happen when the team started choking? Everybody deferred to Kobe. Wade know kobe better you dikkriders just love to ride dikk and think cause you hating it makes it ok.

Wasn't Wade considered to be the best player and the MVP of that 08 Olympic team by almost everyone?

 

[BarackStar]

Wasn't Wade considered to be the best player and the MVP of that 08 Olympic team by almost everyone?

No. and that is irrelevant to this discussion anyway Kobe was barely playing and when he was he was letting the other guys star as he said he'd do before joining the team. He said he'd purely focus on defense and be "the doberman" which he did...till they all started choking in the only real game they had and they all deferred to Kobe and he either scored or assisted like 14 straight points to end the game.

 

[Primetime21]

The only ring Wade got without a top 5 all time player in his prime on his team was blatantly given to him by the refs in the middle of the Tim Donoughy shyt
nikka getting 30 FTs a game and shyt cut it out

I voted kobe but yall kill me with this dumb shyt. How many teammates can say they out performed Shaq and Lebron in a finala series and it wasnt even close

 

[Bilz]

No. and that is irrelevant to this discussion anyway Kobe was barely playing and when he was he was letting the other guys star as he said he'd do before joining the team. He said he'd purely focus on defense and be "the doberman" which he did...till they all started choking in the only real game they had and they all deferred to Kobe and he either scored or assisted like 14 straight points to end the game.

Kobe was jacking up shots like a madman in that series. He wasn't deferring, he just wasn't as effective.

 

[BarackStar]

keep negging nerd lol go watch your cartoons and leave the sports talk to the adults

I voted kobe but yall kill me with this dumb shyt. How many teammates can say they out performed Shaq and Lebron in a finala series and it wasnt even close

Fact = refs blatantly cheated to get the Heat over the Mavs and I didnt care about either team im objective unlike you dikkriders. Same way I admit the refs blatantly cheated for the lakers against the kings years prior.

Fact = Old fat shaq and proven choker Lebron = your hype statement meaningless

prime Bron before the rings and prime Bron after the rings are not the same player one couldnt even make freethrows at all when the pressure was on.

 

[BarackStar]

"Phil Jackson" more casual garbage. Phil Jackson stopped coaching in the 00s. in the 10s he slept on benches and never made an actual in game adjustment to save his life. Which is why he ruined franchises after leaving the lakers. Enjoy the poll nerds. Wade know and will tell you himself who better. cry about it.

 

[waltthizzney]

Even WADE Is a KOBE STAN

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Not even a debate?



I can back this up with numbers. And I didn’t even say it was definitive one way or another.

The two are actually very close. I don’t even care really if someone prefers Kobe here. He’s arguably the 2nd best SG.

But to suggest that Wade isn’t even in the conversation is just...I don’t even know. It’s a severe underappreciation of how good Wade was.

Wade, who led a team to 15 wins, in the damn eastern conference is better than Kobe?Arguably the second best sg? I mean damn, theres only so many ways you can say you hate Kobe Bryant but this is new.