Wade vs Kobe: Who's better?

Who's the better shooting guard of all time?

  • Kobe

    Votes: 132 68.0%
  • Wade

    Votes: 62 32.0%

  • Total voters
    194

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Most of Kobe's All-Defensive team selection are undeserved. .

Stopped reading here, the rest I'm sure is worthless Kobe hater rhetoric

Kobe's LITERALLY the only player in the history of the NBA where muhfukkas do this bullshyt...13 all NBA defensive team selections, NOPE none of them count cause...fukk it random haters say so :mjlol:
 

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Stopped reading here, the rest I'm sure is worthless Kobe hater rhetoric

Kobe's LITERALLY the only player in the history of the NBA where muhfukkas do this bullshyt...13 all NBA defensive team selections, NOPE none of them count cause...fukk it random haters say so :mjlol:
It's a fukking popularity contest. :mjlol:

No, he didn't deserve most of them. No, he is not a better defender than prime Wade.

Y'all not going to tell me Kobe was a better weak side shot blocker than Wade, y'all not going to tell me he was a better transition defender, y'all not going to tell me Kobe was better at getting into the passing lanes, y'all not going to tell me Kobe was a better P&R defender than Wade, he did not have a higher I.Q. or as good instincts as Wade on the defensive end overall. D-Wade in his prime was a higher impact defender than Kobe ever was, he was like a fukking Strong Safety out there.

Phil Jackson said it, anyone who had eyes could see it...
“Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense. Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”
 
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It's a fukking popularity contest. :mjlol:

No, he didn't deserve most of them. No, he is not a better defender than prime Wade.

Y'all not going to tell me Kobe was a better weak side shot blocker than Wade, y'all not going to tell me he was a better transition defender, y'all not going to tell me Kobe was better at getting into the passing lanes, y'all not going to tell me Kobe was a better P&R defender than Wade, he did not have a higher I.Q. or as good instincts as Wade on the defensive end overall. D-Wade in his prime was a higher impact defender than Kobe ever was.

Phil Jackson said it, anyone who had eyes could see it...

A Phil Jackson quote about the last few years of his defense slipping is not a repudiation of his ENTIRE CAREER defensively or MOST of his all NBA defensive selections.... muhfukkas don't just luck into a dozen fukking all defense selections...Wade was a better shot blocker, but that's bout it...for their entire careers Kobe was the better man defender...the Phil quote about Kobe gambling for steals could very well apply to Wade doing the same...touting weakside blocks from a guard like it has the impact of a rim protecting big or some shyt ... comparing Wade's prime (That consisted of what, 2-3 seasons?) to your ole latter day aging Kobe hater talking points :camby:


What other accolades we wanna just arbitrarily throw away because they're "popularity contests"? ... I'm randomly gonna start saying two of LeBron's MVPs he didn't deserve, because fukk it why not
 

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A Phil Jackson quote about the last few years of his defense slipping is not a repudiation of his ENTIRE CAREER defensively or MOST of his all NBA defensive selections.... muhfukkas don't just luck into a dozen fukking all defense selections...Wade was a better shot blocker, but that's bout it...for their entire careers Kobe was the better man defender...the Phil quote about Kobe gambling for steals could very well apply to Wade doing the same...touting weakside blocks from a guard like it has the impact of a rim protecting big or some shyt ... comparing Wade's prime (That consisted of what, 2-3 seasons?) to your ole latter day aging Kobe hater talking points :camby:
That quote isn't about old aging Kobe. It's about prime Kobe, it's from his book The Last Season: A Team In Search of its Soul.

No, D-Wade just wasn't the better shotblocker. I outlined every aspect where D-Wade was an indisputable better defender and all you're talking about is man defense man foh. I think Kobe is the better two guard because he clearly has the more decorated career and more accolades but defensively Kobe did not have Wade's impact period.
 
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That quote isn't about old againg Kobe. It's about prime Kobe, it's from his book The Last Season: A Team In Search of its Soul.

No, D-Wade just wasn't the better shotblocker. I outlined every aspect where D-Wade was an indisputable better defender and all you're talking about is man defense man foh. I think Kobe is the better two guard because he clearly has the more decorated career and more accolades but defensively Kobe did not have Wade's impact period.


And wade never had any range on his shot. Which severly limited his team. I mean bosh was a better three point man than wade
 

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Kobe had the better career. I'd take Wade in over him in a playoff series tho. I'd take Prime Wade over Prime Kobe.
 

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These are the same Kobe stans that swear Kobe was a better defender than LeBron :mjlol:

Even though LeBron was a legitimate DPoY candidate and a far more impactful defender. Even though prime LeBron was 6'8 250-275 lb., faster, taller, stronger, longer, and more explosive, and could defend 1-4 and front smaller 5's (in the playoffs defended the likes of Tony Parker and Derrick Rose, to Carmelo Anthony and Paul Pierce, to David West and Serge Ibaka). Even though prime LeBron was immovable in the low post and could not be screened, even though prime LeBron was the best transition defender in the game and was a nightly threat with the chase down blocks, even though LeBron wasn't scared of drawing charges, even though LeBron was a great weak side shot blocker and even served as de facto rim protector in certain line-ups (took on fukking Tiago Splitter head on), even though LeBron was the better defensive rebounder. Even though prime LeBron put up better advanced and synergy statistics in his prime than Kobe ever did defensively.

The delusions :mjlol:
 
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Stopped reading here, the rest I'm sure is worthless Kobe hater rhetoric

Kobe's LITERALLY the only player in the history of the NBA where muhfukkas do this bullshyt...13 all NBA defensive team selections, NOPE none of them count cause...fukk it random haters say so :mjlol:
He's literally the only player who won the awards each year without any statistical or measurable merit.

Very early in his career, his selections were deserved and the numbers agree.

Why did the numbers suddenly turn on him? The simple answer that most of us could clearly see is that he assumed a larger offensive role and no longer played much defense.
 

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Here Kobe stans come crying like Kobe was on some untouchable shyt like he isn't the woat finals performer for an ATG or that he had a lot of questionable playoff performances and series. Kobe's prime just isn't all that but his longevity and accomplishments are and that's why he's ranked so high All-Time
 

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Here Kobe stans come crying like Kobe was on some untouchable shyt like he isn't the woat finals performer for an ATG or that he had a lot of questionable playoff performances and series. Kobe's prime just isn't all that but his longevity and accomplishments are and that's why he's ranked so high All-Time

Kobe wouldn't have let that bytch Bron sabotage his 2011 FMVP :ufdup:
 

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He's literally the only player who won the awards each year without any statistical or measurAble merit.

:russ:

I know as an absolute certainty you haven't even attempted to do the type of in depth research it would take to make this statement anything more than some shyt you just pulled out your ass...like you went back and did stastical analysis on all 11 of kareems and Bobby Jones all defensive selections to judge their merits

The reality is Kobe is the only player you have a pathological obsessive hatred for...and are laser focused on looking for any and every slight imaginable to hold against him
 
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