Wanna fix tanking and the NBA's biggest problem? Simple give all 30 teams 1 ball in the lottory

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So wait, what is the argument against giving ALL lottery teams one ping pong ball?
 

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And that last part is the main issue that gets glossed over.
And there's nothing you can do to fix that.

how about just make it where the number 10 team gets the first pick...and it just goes backwards from there? Make the scrub teams fight it out

So what stops teams that are close to a last playoff spot from tanking? If my team is a game behind the 8th spot, but a few games from the 10th spot, I want my team to lose games for a top pick.
 

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There's 2 giant myths when it comes to tanking

1. the myth that the teams giving less effort actually means anything, as if effort alone is why they're losing.

2 (and this is becoming a big one): "well this would force teams to make smarter decisions" as if they're intentionally making dumb long term choices. Here's an example.

You're the Milwaukee Bucks. You're about to rebuild again. It's not like they're gonna turn a young player with promise away because it will make them too good. 10 times out of 10 they're not in that position. It's not like the GM is saying "listen I'd love to sign you but I don't feel like winning right now. Sorry." They're not gonna pass up someone really good at 12 because the 12th pick might fukk up their attempt to draft someone at 4 next year. Teams don't do this.
 

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I think they're going to go with the draft wheel, seems like it could work, but the only problem is young squads that are good could end up being absolute juggernauts in that system.

I see no issue with this...
 

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And there's nothing you can do to fix that.



So what stops teams that are close to a last playoff spot from tanking? If my team is a game behind the 8th spot, but a few games from the 10th spot, I want my team to lose games for a top pick.


The extent of tanking wouldn't be close to what it is with the current rules. And It doesn't seem to be the players that are tanking on the court...its the GMs with the squads they're putting out there.
 

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The easy answer to tanking: acknowledge that it doesn't really exist to the degree that it is brought up.

Example: The Los Angeles Lakers are NOT tanking. They suck. Big difference.
 

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Would extending this to teams with 6 seeds and under be too much?

Maybe not but I'd have to look through the past talent level of 6 seeds and under

The easy answer to tanking: acknowledge that it doesn't really exist to the degree that it is brought up.

Example: The Los Angeles Lakers are NOT tanking. They suck. Big difference.

There's also not much difference from the worst team record wise an the fourteenth team record wise as far as talent so why not?
 

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And It doesn't seem to be the players that are tanking on the court...its the GMs with the squads they're putting out there.
How often are GM's intentionally putting out teams with the plan of getting a top pick?

Philly this year, Orlando started rebuilding after trading Dwight, Boston is reloading after getting rid of their core.

Utah is a young team

Sacramento is a young team

NO is a young team with injury issues.

For LA, Kobe and Nash got hurt.

Cleveland was trying to make it this year.

Everyone on the Knicks except Melo regressed.
 

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Depends, had this system been put in place 4 years ago the Heat would have been drafting 6th, 7th and 25th the last few years.


They'd have Drummond right now at the 5 :whoa:

Well, I'd restrict it to lottery teams
 
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