Wanna fix tanking and the NBA's biggest problem? Simple give all 30 teams 1 ball in the lottory

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A good GM will build a good club no matter what city they're in, but don't act like Zach Lavine or whoever's gonna be around at 14 is gonna have the same impact as Embiid or Jabari Parker at 1.

And what does this have to do with anything? The current system isn't fixed so this actually HELPS a Utah get that first pick more than the current system.
 

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So if after 3 years, 3 shytty lotto picks by the GM he's fired and a new one is brought in, how does he improve the team?

He's left with a mess and you've taken away the easiest way for him to improve the team.

At what point would the team regain the ability to pick in the lotto?
I said for one year that team will be ineligible for getting a lottery pick :mindblown: After that 1 year penalty they can be in the lotto again. You act like I said for the next 10 yrs. :what:


We shouldn't reward teams in the lottery year after year.
 

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that statement makes a lot of assumptions...you'd have to elaborate.

Phoenix can not make the playoffs get lucky in the lottery and get a gray rookie while only having to pay him the rookie wage

Instead of making the playoffs losing in the first round having to trade or sign free agents to improve
What's the problem
 

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And what does this have to do with anything? The current system isn't fixed so this actually HELPS a Utah get that first pick more than the current system.
But could also give them a much worse pick than their current lottery seeding. Right now they're slotted to get the 6th pick if everything went according to plan. 9th at the worst if three teams behind them got those lottery picks at the top. With the ping-pong ball for every pick, they could slide down to 14.
 

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But could also give them a much worse pick than their current lottery seeding. Right now they're slotted to get the 6th pick if everything went according to plan. 9th at the worst if three teams behind them got those lottery picks at the top. With the ping-pong ball for every pick, they could slide down to 14.

So they are slotted at 6th and get the 14th pick... they draft a solid player because they have solid management

The following year slotted at 9th or some shyt and get the 1st pick.. get rewarded with a potential all star

Not seeing the issue?
 

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So they are slotted at 6th and get the 14th pick... they draft a solid player because they have solid management

The following year slotted at 9th or some shyt and get the 1st pick.. get rewarded with a potential all star

Not seeing the issue?
Forget it. :snoop:
 

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Phoenix can not make the playoffs get lucky in the lottery and get a gray rookie while only having to pay him the rookie wage

Instead of making the playoffs losing in the first round having to trade or sign free agents to improve

What's the problem

Phoenix can also not make the playoffs, get the 12th pick, and get a mediocre rookie. Instead of making the playoffs, losing in the 2nd round but getting tons of buzz, ticket sales, and happy fans from taking out a higher seed.

Both scenarios have a lot of "what ifs" I just dont think tanking is some clear cut winner.

I also think teams know this....so I dont think teams really tank that much.
 

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Because there will be teams that are trying like Utah who could get punished and wind up with the 14th pick. I don't think there is a real solution to this. I like the one ping-pong ball idea, but just for the top-three picks like we have now.
See, using words like "punished" is why shyt doesn't get done. You ain't good enough to be in the playoffs, too bad.
 

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the nba will never fix the draft b/c they want to spread out talent. they want to give each team their own "jordan" and have a guaranteed stream of revenue even though the product on the court sucks as fans will want to see their jordan play.
That is why they have taken step to limit (top) player movement. Best believe they will tighten the screws even more in the next CBA.
 

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See, using words like "punished" is why shyt doesn't get done. You ain't good enough to be in the playoffs, too bad.
:stopitslime:

This thread is about fixing tanking. Utah's giving a genuine effort to win games with their squad, they're just too young and not good enough right now. Under this proposed system though, they could get a worse seeding in the draft. That's not fixing anything.
 

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:stopitslime:

This thread is about fixing tanking. Utah's giving a genuine effort to win games with their squad, they're just too young and not good enough right now. Under this proposed system though, they could get a worse seeding in the draft. That's not fixing anything.

You're really showing a lack of intellect
 

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the nba will never fix the draft b/c they want to spread out talent. they want to give each team their own "jordan" and have a guaranteed stream of revenue even though the product on the court sucks as fans will want to see their jordan play.
That is why they have taken step to limit (top) player movement. Best believe they will tighten the screws even more in the next CBA.


There's ways to spread out talent without encouraging teams to tank.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-...nding-to-league-office-need-any-input.195907/
 
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