Wanna fix tanking and the NBA's biggest problem? Simple give all 30 teams 1 ball in the lottory

[andre patton]

The Suns are trying to trend upward. There's a big difference between the Suns trying to be competitive in the playoffs vs. say the Bucks or this year's Lakers.

Then I dunno what your saying. I initially said a 7th or 8th seed team, like Phoenix, is in a more favorable position than a team trying to tank...like Philly. You said thats a fairy tale. I think a team showing progress...winning more games than the previous season...or even missing the playoffs one season, and barely getting in the next season....its more favorable than a team tanking for a top 5 pick in a draft.

 

[Poitier]

Because there will be teams that are trying like Utah who could get punished and wind up with the 14th pick. I don't think there is a real solution to this. I like the one ping-pong ball idea, but just for the top-three picks like we have now.

I'm really not seeing an issue with Utah "getting punished". If it's really about GMs, coaching and scouting then draft position won't matter, so why not give all 14 teams equal chances at those top spots? Not really any discrepancy in talent between the worst team record wise and the 14th.

 

[jwinfield]

bottom 8 teams play in a tournament to get positioned

winner gets first place and so forth

So for teams that just don't have the talent, how do they improve?

Also teams that are in the lottery for more than 3 consecutive years should start being punished by not being eligible for the lottery for the following year after that no matter what their record is

How does this help teams with bad management improve?

 

[AAKing23]

Because there will be teams that are trying like Utah who could get punished and wind up with the 14th pick. I don't think there is a real solution to this. I like the one ping-pong ball idea, but just for the top-three picks like we have now.

I can agree with this

 

[#StarkSet]

So for teams that just don't have the talent, how do they improve?

win them games, bad teams can go on a run

 

[Regular_P]

I'm really not seeing an issue with Utah "getting punished". If it's really about GMs, coaching and scouting then draft position won't matter, so why not give all 14 teams equal chances at those top spots? Not really any discrepancy in talent between the worst team record wise and the 14th.

Because Utah's trying to win games right now and they've actually done a pretty good job assembling a good, young core. They haven't been drafting like the Bobcats or getting rid of every NBA caliber player on their roster like the Sixers.

If they got the 14th pick and Philly got the 1st, the "right" team isn't getting rewarded.

 

[AAKing23]

So for teams that just don't have the talent, how do they improve?



How does this help teams with bad management improve?

What do u want? The NBA to remove the GM from the team? That's up to the owner, There's only so much the league can do at that point.


But what you can do is make sure these teams with bad management don't have the chance to draft top 3 every year while another team never gets a top pick

 

[jwinfield]

win them games, bad teams can go on a run

But they're bad for a reason, in part because they aren't good at winning multiple games in a row.

 

[Poitier]

Because Utah's trying to win games right now and they've actually done a pretty good job assembling a good, young core. They haven't been drafting like the Bobcats or getting rid of every NBA caliber player on their roster like the Sixers.

So this would reward them by giving them the same odds as Charlotte and 76ers...

This lets good GMs in small markets have an even better chance at creating competitive teams..

 

[Regular_P]

So this would reward them by giving them the same odds as Charlotte and 76ers...

This lets good GMs in small markets have an even better chance at creating competitive teams..

A good GM will build a good club no matter what city they're in, but don't act like Zach Lavine or whoever's gonna be around at 14 is gonna have the same impact as Embiid or Jabari Parker at 1.

 

[#StarkSet]

But they're bad for a reason, in part because they aren't good at winning multiple games in a row.

or because they sabotage themselves like the 76ers



tell me that shyt wouldn't be fun to watch

 

[jwinfield]

What do u want? The NBA to remove the GM from the team? That's up to the owner, There's only so much the league can do at that point.


But what you can do is make sure these teams with bad management don't have the chance to draft top 3 every year while another team never gets a top pick

So if after 3 years, 3 shytty lotto picks by the GM he's fired and a new one is brought in, how does he improve the team?

He's left with a mess and you've taken away the easiest way for him to improve the team.

At what point would the team regain the ability to pick in the lotto?

 

[jwinfield]

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[AAKing23]

And I love how we're acting like having a top 3 pick is a surefire way to become great


10 teams passed on MCW, 9 teams passed on Paul George, Damn near the whole league passed on Stephenson so ultimately it all comes down to your management and if that sucks then too bad

 

[really]

You know the easiest and most logical way to ELIMINATE tanking?


-Top 16 teams make the playoffs and are organized by their record for the draft, as usual


-14 teams that don't make the playoffs.... The team with the BEST RECORD of those remaining 14 teams, gets the MOST ping pong balls (instead of the least)


It's that fukkin simple.



And this is how you balance things out: Any player who makes himself eligible for the draft, will be evaluated by 100 NBA designtated college scouts (whether former players, coaches or what have you)... and given a grade.


So, if a player gets an A+ (lets say Lebron when he was coming out), he has to make $12 million out of the GATE if taken at number 1 overall...


If a player is rated a C+ and taken number 1 overall (lets say its just a terrible draft class), then the opening salary for that #1 player should only be $6mil or something....



If a team drafts 14th, then the rookie salary would only be like $1 million




Basically, make the shyt a combination of Reversing the NBA draft + how the NFL draft works....


But the reason you cant make EVERY #1 PICK $12 mil salary cap hit, is because if the draft class sucks, it would cripple the franchise by giving an average player $12 mil a year as a rookie...


This is why the NBA should have every player that enters the draft rated, so the only way you will pay big money for a rookie #1 overall is if he's actually GOOD (or if you want to bypass the ratings, then just used a sophisticated formula calculating player efficiency rating and win shares and shyt like that, whatever the super advanced metrics are, use that to grade college players.




DONE..... Tanking is now eliminated since the team with the BEST record that doesn't makes the playoffs, gets the MOST ping pong balls....



If a team with the worst record in the league has to draft 14th, then they will be paying $1 mil a year for that rookie player (giving them more flexibility in Free Agency), while the #1 pick team has to pay $12 to $15 million... So that would even shyt out.


Done... (didn't proof read, but I might do that and make my own thread )