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Graduation the goat Ye album
what if i said "graduation" was a better album than "late registration"?
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B. Pumpaveli
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It was just a rip off of this song
No the fukk it wasn't.
B. Pumpaveli
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PlayerNinety_Nine
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To me, on 'Late Registration' he was a rapper/producer making songs that ended up crossing over.
By 'Graduation' he was a bonafide pop star. He made that same artistic jump that Wayne made between Carter 2 and 3. Whereas Wayne went in on the mixtapes and guest appearances, Ye was producing both radio and underground hits (He had credits for Janet Jackson, Maroon 5 and Mobb Deep in '05 alone). The sales battle with 50 was a smart idea to ensure that he got to that spot.
That said, I prefer 'Late Registration' - it was a crossroads for so many interesting moments in Black art. You had the South popping off, Jamie fresh off his Oscar, doing his Ray impression on 'Gold Digger', Jay and Nas on the same album for the first time, Cam at the tail end of the Diplomats dealings with Roc A Fella, underground cats like Lupe and Consequence putting in work and on top of that all, Jay as president of Def Jam. It felt like a movie with cameos by a bunch of my favourite actors.
By 'Graduation' he was a bonafide pop star. He made that same artistic jump that Wayne made between Carter 2 and 3. Whereas Wayne went in on the mixtapes and guest appearances, Ye was producing both radio and underground hits (He had credits for Janet Jackson, Maroon 5 and Mobb Deep in '05 alone). The sales battle with 50 was a smart idea to ensure that he got to that spot.
That said, I prefer 'Late Registration' - it was a crossroads for so many interesting moments in Black art. You had the South popping off, Jamie fresh off his Oscar, doing his Ray impression on 'Gold Digger', Jay and Nas on the same album for the first time, Cam at the tail end of the Diplomats dealings with Roc A Fella, underground cats like Lupe and Consequence putting in work and on top of that all, Jay as president of Def Jam. It felt like a movie with cameos by a bunch of my favourite actors.
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If I think LR, I instantly hear the production assisted by Jon Brion and I just can't agree.
CD>LR>GR
Don't forget GR was the album that got Kanye all these white and asian fans too.
The same cacs that are praising yeezus.
CD>LR>GR
Don't forget GR was the album that got Kanye all these white and asian fans too.
The same cacs that are praising yeezus.
Late Registration is a personal favorite of me cause I was playing that album a lot when I went to tough times, so I might take it over Graduation.
Graduation is the perfect mainstream rap album, it reinvented the genre and had smashes all around
Graduation is the perfect mainstream rap album, it reinvented the genre and had smashes all around
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
I would agree, ye's best and most well rounded album
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The more time passes, the more I can see that being the case. Late Registration is Kanye in his prime as a "Rapper". Graduation is when he became a true "Artist".
SuburbanPimp
Giving game to lames since the 90s
I've honestly never heard anyone say that LR is better than Graduation....
Graduation was a complete rap album, one of my favorites...
People sleep on LR though, the production on there is really
Crack Music, We Major, Drive Slow, Touch the Sky, Gold Digger all are still dope
Graduation was a complete rap album, one of my favorites...
People sleep on LR though, the production on there is really
Crack Music, We Major, Drive Slow, Touch the Sky, Gold Digger all are still dope
I definitely agree
I've never seen the hype for Late Registration
filled with skits and weak tracks
I've never seen the hype for Late Registration
filled with skits and weak tracks
be back in a bit
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Don't forget "Gone"I've honestly never heard anyone say that LR is better than Graduation....
Graduation was a complete rap album, one of my favorites...
People sleep on LR though, the production on there is really
Crack Music, We Major, Drive Slow, Touch the Sky, Gold Digger all are still dope
Graduation is his most "people pleasing" album. What's it... 11 songs? None in that 6 minutes + range I believe. No skits. Most have traditional song structure. Packed with some big hits. He didn't make a big effort to change the game or drop here. He peeped that electro/synth wave started by FS/LS from '06 and incorporated it into the album. The album features (at the time) his biggest Pop move in terms of sound and is general his "whitest" album. He also dropped a mixtape where he raps over Belle & Sebastien and Rich Boy. A taste of things to come thematically.
Can't Tell Me Nothing was his first out and out attempt at a street/hood anthem. He had never courted the hood or its sound to such a strong extent on his own albums at that point. He got that DJ Toomp street banger stimulus package and delivered one of the defining songs of that era/sound.
So you have Stronger which is THE pop move. Even though Kanye was already a megastar, he's an Urban artist with an urban sound this was a departure.
Then he has Good Life - powered by a Mike Jackson RnB record. It's hit so many demographics with 3 songs here.
Then the album was solid. The synths/electro vibes was the risk but all in all it's a very safe album (for Kanye). Songs like The Glory, Everything That I Am, Champion, even Good Morning aren't as ambitious as 90% of the songs on his other albums. But Kanye had arrived as a superstar on this one. It's a super easy listen too. It's not long. Challenging. No wild statements. Has hits by the ton.
LR is the better album for me though. But a more difficult listen. This has loads of guest appearances. Long songs. Long ass album. Plenty of skits. Hella ambitious songs that you either love or think is over produced. But it's just a higher level of artistry than Graduation.
Graduation is Kanye trying Michael Jackson's Thriller (King of Pop / Rap)
Late Registration is Kanye trying golden Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (classic era).
I genuinely believe that was teh aims of those albums.
Can't Tell Me Nothing was his first out and out attempt at a street/hood anthem. He had never courted the hood or its sound to such a strong extent on his own albums at that point. He got that DJ Toomp street banger stimulus package and delivered one of the defining songs of that era/sound.
So you have Stronger which is THE pop move. Even though Kanye was already a megastar, he's an Urban artist with an urban sound this was a departure.
Then he has Good Life - powered by a Mike Jackson RnB record. It's hit so many demographics with 3 songs here.
Then the album was solid. The synths/electro vibes was the risk but all in all it's a very safe album (for Kanye). Songs like The Glory, Everything That I Am, Champion, even Good Morning aren't as ambitious as 90% of the songs on his other albums. But Kanye had arrived as a superstar on this one. It's a super easy listen too. It's not long. Challenging. No wild statements. Has hits by the ton.
LR is the better album for me though. But a more difficult listen. This has loads of guest appearances. Long songs. Long ass album. Plenty of skits. Hella ambitious songs that you either love or think is over produced. But it's just a higher level of artistry than Graduation.
Graduation is Kanye trying Michael Jackson's Thriller (King of Pop / Rap)
Late Registration is Kanye trying golden Stevie Wonder's Songs in the Key of Life (classic era).
I genuinely believe that was teh aims of those albums.
Graduation def. a classic. but nope 
LR is his best piece of work everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
LR is his best piece of work everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr