boyonamission
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Well, it's the only part of hip hop still standing. That other shyt is no longer relevant. That's fact.
When Are Rappers Gonna Realize That Making Music With Substance Pays Off More?
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Well, it's the only part of hip hop still standing. That other shyt is no longer relevant. That's fact.
you're still not going against the OP's point.
The point is, your best trap rapper, mumble rapper with the best beats will never defeat the best combination of great music and great substance. NEVER. NEVER has, NEVER WILL. no matter what they try to push out their and promote.
and we know which has the most staying power meaning when these rappers get in their 30's and 40's. the substance rappers will be able to book shows. we already know these flash in the pan rappers wont. we've seen it too many times in the past 10 years. guy is hot on tuesday ice cold by next tuesday.
Wrong, but I understand why you think that way.
There is Hip Hop going on away from the music industry, that's the only thing you pay attention to though. Not your fault but "they" have erronously made you believe that the rap music is the only thing "still standing"....nah...it's just that the music is the most easily reproduced and exploited. You can't mass produce graf art or DJ techniques...you can't even really mass produce straight up poetry now a days. The great poets of our time, are rappers. There are no Shakespeare's outside of Hip Hop culture.
There are people thriving away from the music industry even rappers...I mean they may seem irrelevant to you because of where your attention is sitting but a lot of these flavor of the month nikkas that people listen to ain't pulling 20-30k a performance to get on stage and rap without any music at all.
Hip Hop is still standing...you can still participate beyond consuming music. That's why a lot of kids feel left out...you either buying the music or you making the music to sell....that is a farce.
boyonamission
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"Substance" is subjective. nikkas really think substance means talking about racism, the evils of capitalism, etc.
Does it matter? There was a time when rappers whole agenda was to put people up on common sense shyt.
As you can see from who 'we' elected people don't have enough common sense, might as well start there.
It does, actually. A so-called "conscious" rapper or just one with "something to say" will tell the listener that "1 + 1 = 2" on a record and because it's supposedly "real" music, it's lauded like they just found the key to life or some shyt.
It's overblown more often than not
If y'all (and this is a collective 'y'all' that goes outside this forum) wanted substantive music, you'd get it. For one reason/circumstance or the other, y'all don't want that. Simple. Pretending is always funny tho 
That painful truth
Kendrick gets no play from me today. Kendrick won't get no play from me 10yrs from now either, really don't understand why he keeps getting used as the standard, his music has just as much replay value NOW as a Young Thug's will 5 years from now.
Yall stuck in the 90s nikkas acting like that music of "substance" from back then is getting play by these young kids today, well news flash, ITS NOT. Only nikkas listening to that shyt are nikkas that were listening to it then, and that cycle will repeat for the next era, and the era after that. So how isn't that music just as microwavable and for the moment?Don't answer that, its a rhetorical question.
And not to mention, whose to say what is substance and what isn't, that's WHOLLY subjective bruh.
Yall hip hop elitist are so fukking lame at times.
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OP didnt just mean sociopolitical stuff. because cole and kendrick talk about regular hood or regular people stuff a lot. all over their songs are not on some super social political kick
That's just you being critical though, who gives a shyt about that besides you?
Even if it's just a "surface" level "conscious" rapper...are they saying something worth listening to to SOMEBODY? Are their words opening doors in peoples minds or at least dishing out 'common sense' that is so uncommon? Some of the listeners need introductory/elementary "conscious" rap because they are starting from behind. You can't teach a baby algebra.
Think about that fam.
Well...who else matters
I'm not gonna be ignorant enough to say you can't learn anything from a record...but most of what gets praised is just
to me
Well...who else matters
I'm not gonna be ignorant enough to say you can't learn anything from a record...but most of what gets praised is just
Like I said my nikka...you understand the language, some people are so caught up in the "music" they really don't even know what the fukk is being said.
You're obviously on a different grade level. You go sit in with the 2nd graders you're gonna feel bored right? Don't ridicule them though...just help them catch up. You're not obligated but you'll feel better, and you might see a change in the landscape.
Educating the youngins > dismissing them...that;s how they got the okie doke pulled on them in the first place. We took our ball and went home and left them to play with trash.
So basically, I sound like a baby boomer right nowLike I said my nikka...you understand the language, some people are so caught up in the "music" they really don't even know what the fukk is being said.
You're obviously on a different grade level. You go sit in with the 2nd graders you're gonna feel bored right? Don't ridicule them though...just help them catch up. You're not obligated but you'll feel better, and you might see a change in the landscape.
Educating the youngins > dismissing them...that;s how they got the okie doke pulled on them in the first place. We took our ball and went home and left them to play with trash.
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So basically, I sound like a baby boomer right now
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if you say so
but from what i see the biggest albums/singles are most often in a certain lane
rather strike while i'm hot and make more money than cats that make real rap would make in a lifetime of doing shows
and jigga is up there when it comes to talking that money shyt
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