Who Flipped it Better Vol 1. 9th Wonder vs J Dilla

[Zero]

9th. That beat in particular introduced me to Justice League as a whole

 

[James Dean]

I'm not exactly sure why he didn't end up using it.

I was around the scene at that time. I just remember that originally the beat was used when Little Brother would come onto the stage for live shows. Later, a guy in Carolina named Panama Gat rapped on the best and actually made a pretty dope song out of it, but I don't think 9th actually sold it to him. The beat was floating around on SoulSeek and a few other places online (this was maybe 2003 or 2004.)

I just remember there was a point around the time of Be and Finding Forever where 9th was sending some beats to Common, and I remember hearing that Dollars Circulate might finally get rapped on.

Nothing came of it, though, and Common and Luda would rap over a 9th joint a few years later called Do The Right Thing.

Repped!

Thats a dope story.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

9th flip is way better

dilla’s beat a throwaway tho.

Throwaway?

Wow I'm glad I'm an old head sometimes... Dilla's version with Spacek was a certified heater and got spins at a lot of events. The 9th version lives online.

Off memories of hearing this in the club alone I'll go with the Dilla version anyday.

 

[087532652350]

the snare on the 9th beat is terrible

 

[TheDarceKnight]

the snare on the 9th beat is terrible

I think @Dippa1947 said some of his old snares from this time period (early 00's) reminded him of someone in a Kung Fu movie getting punched?



Some people used to complain about his snares, and then he switched them on the Chemistry album with Buckshot, then people wanted the old snares back.

Do you like them better now, or not really? Genuine question.

 

[James Dean]

I think @Dippa1947 said some of his old snares from this time period (early 00's) reminded him of someone in a Kung Fu movie getting punched?



Some people used to complain about his snares, and then he switched them on the Chemistry album with Buckshot, then people wanted the old snares back.

Do you like them better now, or not really? Genuine question.

9th caught heat for his drums in general I think when he finally gave in and switched it up, it did wonders for him personally.

 

[KravenMorehead™]

I like both but Dilla's shyt has that bounce that makes you start freestylin on the spot

 

[ESCAPADE]

9th and it’s not up for debate

 

[087532652350]

I think @Dippa1947 said some of his old snares from this time period (early 00's) reminded him of someone in a Kung Fu movie getting punched?



Some people used to complain about his snares, and then he switched them on the Chemistry album with Buckshot, then people wanted the old snares back.

Do you like them better now, or not really? Genuine question.

his snare sound in this is similar but it sounds more compressed with less high end and generally fits the vibe of the song better imo



i liked his production on rapsody's album recently too

 

[Renegade47]

Throwaway?

Wow I'm glad I'm an old head sometimes... Dilla's version with Spacek was a certified heater and got spins at a lot of events. The 9th version lives online.

Off memories of hearing this in the club alone I'll go with the Dilla version anyday.

if its not a throwaway it shoulda been cus that shyt light as hell

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

if its not a throwaway it shoulda been cus that shyt light as hell

well it was the bigger song so your opinion isn't relevant.

both beats are dope but the spacek joint over the dilla flip was an actual club banger

 

[Chip Skylark]

Don Cannons >>>>>

 

[Renegade47]

well it was the bigger song so your opinion isn't relevant.

both beats are dope but the spacek joint over the dilla flip was an actual club banger

so we gone act like there aren't endless amounts of big songs/beats that are trash?

 

[NormanConnors]

Jay Dee's >>

9ths is all over the place/too cluttered, breh tried to do too much on that one imo

Even with all that I can tell Jay Dee put more work into his, precise/sharp mastery

 

[NormanConnors]

beats are supposed to be repetitive so in that they dont outshine the mc or singer on it. I have been on a lot of forums reading reviews about beat competitions and people saying that beats are too repetitive, but in reality your favorite hip hop songs of all time have repetitive instrumentals that let the rapper shine. You don't want a beat changng every 2 bars. The standard is the 4 or the 8

there is no right or wrong answer. both are dope

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