WSJ: Bernie Sanders' Policies Would Cost $18 Trillion Over 10 Years

[CHL]

@Chez Lopez turning into a capitalist troll = ^^

 

[gracchus]

@Chez Lopez turning into a capitalist troll = ^^

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

Yes, let's heavily tax the wealthy in a free market capitalist society, because clearly, the wealthy are not, like, business owners who would, like, raise their prices to ease the tax burden. I mean, come on, it's not like the wealthy are up late at night looking over their spreadsheets figuring out ways to, like, motherfukk the consumer out of free drinks and pillows on airplanes and operational airbags in minivans and sport utility vehicles to have enough money for Roman orgy-themed baby showers and 24 karat solid gold bidets.

So you have no problem with corporations paying no taxes? You have no problem with Google's headquarters being in some tax haven in the Caribbean or buying a pair jeans for $45.99 that literally cost $4 to produce?

Do you enjoy living in an oligarchy?

 

[¢apitali$t Migraine]

So you have no problem with corporations paying no taxes? You have no problem with Google's headquarters being in some tax haven in the Caribbean or buying a pair jeans for $45.99 that literally cost $4 to produce?

Do you enjoy living in an oligarchy?

How the fukk does that translate to me being cool with tax havens? And shyt, if Google produces products and services that I enjoy and am willing to pay money for, shyt, get it how u live. I'm a satisfied customer. I could care less either way, so I'm certainly not in the business of clamoring to penalize them for turning a profit on excellent goods and services.

Jesus will you stop being a sissy. "Oligarchy". nikka if u open a lemonade stand, I don't have the right to come to that shyt and say, "Naw, fukk dat, bro. You didn't use lemons that I had assigned my own idea of a particular value to." Motherfukkers always wanna tightly regulate everything except for the shyt they personally make money off of. If I began rallying for a 90% tax on gay bath houses, ur ass would be sitting in a book depository holding a Winchester like Oswald.

The hypocrisy of this goddamn board (aka the whole hip hop generation) would be irritating if it wasn't indicative of how a lack of self-awareness can automatically disable a human being. Poor people with shyt educations don't get to control the country thru legislation. Sorry, that's a recipe for fukking disaster, and no, not "My boss switched me to part time and I can't afford to go to the Weeknd concert!" disaster, but actual 3rd world broke nikka disaster.

Talk sum jeans. Yeah, the oppression is soul crushing, I can feel the sweat of my brow sting my eyes as I sip my Orange Julius at the mall and purchase $45 jeans with a far right wing storm trooper's gun to the back of my head. nikka, please.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

OH no math and logic what are we going to do.

Gotta love marketing. It could have been 18 trillion over 50 years and these fuks would have still bolded 18 TRILLION!)!)!) (OMG WTF) like it was the end of the world.

Everything Bernie is trying to spend money on is an investment, meaning there will be returns be they monetary or intangible. There are no returns on war, well no beneficial returns at least.

Eh...This is UNCOMFORTABLY untrue...

 

[ill]

Eh...This is UNCOMFORTABLY untrue...

Yeah i was gonna quote him on that too. War is very profitable.

 

[¢apitali$t Migraine]

so basically we should cower in fear and try not to upset massa or he'll charge us more at the company store?

This is the problem when you let greedy capitalist make all the rules they paint themselves as the kings (surprise). The american consumer is just as much, if not more so, a valuable commodity, worth much more than whatever trinket or service ANY of these "wealthy" are pitching. It should be a privilege to do business in America, to have access to one of the largest purchasing forces in history. You sell yourself short by fearing price increases. Fuk that. Don't buy their shyt. Or rather let's let the market decide what happens when they raise their prices and let see if there's not some competition that wont dip into their profits to make the sale.

COMPANIES, particularly large companies, ARE NOT HURTING FOR CASH and they are profitable. IF they raise their prices it's because they are greedy charging too much, the market should punish them for that, and WILL punish them for that as new lower cost services come out. Competition my friend, that is the backbone of capitalism, not back room deals designed by the people who benefit the most from them, not taxes and loopholes that quite literally allow the largest companies in America to pay NO TAXES.

You're perspective is all types of fuked up my friend.

Don't buy their shyt? Muthafukka, u changed the damn tax laws, anybody who has a capability to produce those goods and services at the rate and capacity of the company ur throwing a hissy fit about is gonna get hit the same goddamn way. It's fukking stupid populist half-baked bullshyt that won't work.

How bout we tax ur ass at 90%? shyt, nikka u don't produce a goddamn thing. U just consume all goddamn day. U can jerk off to online porn and download mixtapes living at the Y. This whole shyt is dumb as fukk. The companies are making beaucoup profits cuz we buyin beaucoup shyt from em cuz we like the shyt beaucoup. This is like being a broke ass weedhead n ur dealer sells the best weed in the city and because u see his ass drive by in a beem u wanna increase the tax on his ass to 90%. Foh, let that boy cook. Produce a good or a service and demand a payment for said good/service then see if u want some hippity hop shythead online trying to take 90% of ur profit away because his ass feels some type of way.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

How much money did wallstreet rob this country of? How much money did we spend on the Iraqi war?

The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest

I guess we have no money so we can provide healthcare and education to citizens but we can pay for war and missiles and aircraft and drones, etc.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

How much money did wallstreet rob this country of? How much money did we spend on the Iraqi war?

The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest

I guess we have no money so we can provide healthcare and education to citizens but we can pay for war and missiles and aircraft and drones, etc.

That money is gone already. I agree in principle, but throwing that into this conversation is more of an emotional plea

 

[ExodusNirvana]

How much money did wallstreet rob this country of? How much money did we spend on the Iraqi war?

The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest

I guess we have no money so we can provide healthcare and education to citizens but we can pay for war and missiles and aircraft and drones, etc.

But the Russians! And the Chinese! And the AY-RABS!!

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

That money is gone already. I agree in principle, but throwing that into this conversation is more of an emotional plea

no it isn't, its an illustration of what we as a country actually spend money on. The things that should matter, like healthcare and education? We always somehow "never have the money" for these things. Yet no matter what, we always scrape up enough change to buy 10 new helicopters or what have you. We have citizens robbing banks to pay for their child's cancer treatment. People aren't worried about where the money will come from unless it's socialistic ideals like welfare, healthcare and free education. Other countries can afford to give their citizens free healthcare and free college level education but America can't? this isn't all directed at you, I'm just ranting.

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

no it isn't, its an illustration of what we as a country actually spend money on. The things that should matter, like healthcare and education? We always somehow "never have the money" for these things. Yet no matter what, we always scrape up enough change to buy 10 new helicopters or what have you. We have citizens robbing banks to pay for their child's cancer treatment. People aren't worried about where the money will come from unless it's socialistic ideals like welfare, healthcare and free education. Other countries can afford to give their citizens free healthcare and free college level education but America can't? this isn't all directed at you, I'm just ranting.

Other countries have their military spending subsidized by the US and the protection we offer our allies. its the unfortunate byproduct of a dynamic that has allowed us to become the dominant world power.

But, yes, I do agree with you in principle.

Edit: A good question for those that frame their argument in this way, though (looking at you @Napoleon), is what is all this world domination for in the end if are doing it at the expense of our own people? There are certain benefits involved in being the hegemon, but if Europeans are seeing more of that benefit as a result of our subsidizing their defense, why not take a step back ourselves? If we, as the dominate power in the world, cant afford to keep our own citizens healthy and alive and all we can afford to do is to continue propping up our own power, it really does all become a pointless effort

 

[rapbeats]

Been saying this. I don't know where Bernie is going to get the money to pay for all the shyt he stay talking about.

you do know where he will get the money. the same place that they all get the money. from you mr tax payer. its the same for every prez. some say expand the government. repubs say decrease but expand big business via kickbacks and tax breaks. there is no difference in where the money is eventually coming from.

again i would personally rather pay up front thru taxes for something i know is more streamlined then the process we have now or even pre obama care. i've always thought like this.

for the average joe. think about this for a moment. wouldnt you want to have a situation where you could change careers and not be afraid that "i cant lose my families benefits. this job has good benefits." you would be surprised to find out how many people are in wack careers/jobs all due to the benefits they get their vs what they would or wouldnt get at the new spot. you go single payer. thats no longer an issue. single payer = more people going to get preventative stuff done before it gets to the point they have an issue. This increases everyones health and decreases cost by a HUUUUGE margin. over now/pre obama care. where you have people not going to the doctor trying to avoid the cost. even taking the obama fee hit.

 

[88m3]

So hypothetically lets say the 18 trillion number is correct over the course of xx amount of years what would be the economic benefit of the country? If we undertook just some of the things proposed hypothetically they should return trillions and have other societal benefits.

@Domingo Halliburton @Futuristic Eskimo

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

So hypothetically lets say the 18 trillion number is correct over the course of xx amount of years what would be the economic benefit of the country? If we undertook just some of the things proposed hypothetically they should return trillions and have other societal benefits.

@Domingo Halliburton @Futuristic Eskimo

Im not nearly capable enough of making that calculation or judgementPresumably there would be benefits