05' Steve Nash or 11'Derrick Rose?

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GunRanger said:
Or Nash turns boozer into the pick and roll player he was in Utah. :yeshrug:Boozer wasn't used properly at all there.


Rose struggled throughout the games, not just the 4th quarters. He shot 35% for the series. He had games like 8 for 27, and 9 for 29 :ohdear:
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who else on the 2011 can create their own shot, and set teammates up besides rose?

thibbs offensive system doesn't suit stevie at all.

Rose had to do everything offensively for our team to suceed there's a reason why the next year he got hurt against a 40 win philly team we lost 4 of 5 in the series.
 
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VMR said:
?????? so why are you arguing nash over rose? :mindblown: hes the only big name in recent history worse on defense than james harden
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Because Nash is one of the best offensive players of all time and has led numerous top ten offended under 3 different coaches?

The fact that Nash was averaging a whopping .1 more TOV than Rose despite being in one of the fastest paced offenses of all time and averaging almost 4 more AST.

The fact that Nash shoots almost a full .10% better from three point land despite the fact they take almost the same amount of threes.

People talk about how Rose would do much better in the Suns but he wouldn't. Rose is an extremely streaky player and he typically needs to be a scoring to get into a groove offensively.

Rose doesn't have Nash's vision, creativity, playmaking, scoring versatility, range, or as many offensive weapons. Rose is a better defender, rebounder, and finisher in the paint. That's it.
 
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Oh, Nash also becomes a lot better in the playoffs. He shows that he's essily capable of dropping 23-25 a game and still keep his elite effeciency against top tier defenses and still be a great playmaker.

Nash was THAT white boy. You replace any top PG in the league right now with Nash and that team becomes a championship contender.

Nash and KD? :banderas:

Nash with Griffin, Jordan, Reddikk :whew:

Nash with Klay, Iggy, Lee :ohlawd:
 
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Prime Nash all day, every single day. I think people forget that we're taking about an all time great passer and shooter. His percentages are insane. Rose doesn't really do anything at a historical level, except finishing, and that's not even a given. The Coli doing the right thing once again in these polls.
 
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Breh nash truly deserved a championship..

he's a top 5 PG of all time top 7 AT WORST

D-rose is a great player but nowhere near Prime Nash yet.

We'll see what he brings this season.
 
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Rose gets way too many props when thibs should get the credit.Y'all overrate the shyt out of rose on this board for real

Nash better shooter,pg,passer and led his team to more wins in a tougher conference
 
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Draje said:
Because Nash is one of the best offensive players of all time and has led numerous top ten offended under 3 different coaches?

The fact that Nash was averaging a whopping .1 more TOV than Rose despite being in one of the fastest paced offenses of all time and averaging almost 4 more AST.

The fact that Nash shoots almost a full .10% better from three point land despite the fact they take almost the same amount of threes.

People talk about how Rose would do much better in the Suns but he wouldn't. Rose is an extremely streaky player and he typically needs to be a scoring to get into a groove offensively.

Rose doesn't have Nash's vision, creativity, playmaking, scoring versatility, range, or as many offensive weapons. Rose is a better defender, rebounder, and finisher in the paint. That's it.
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How did joe johnson and quentin richardson do in that offense? Theyre not streaky players though right?:comeon:

And more of what im saying is that Nash would have done WORSE with the Bulls. Especially in comparison to Rose on the Suns. Maybe they both would have been worse...but Nash would fall off further. Don't you think the lack of Rose APG could be from LOOKING TO SCORE MORE? Because he had LESS OPTIONS? 2004-2005 Nash scored 900 less points than 2010-2011 Rose :mjlol:

And i think everyone is really forgetting how bad on defense Nash was/is. That wasn't just D'Antoni's system. He couldnt d up in general, anywhere. Gentry essentially kept D'Antoni's system on offense and Don Nelson in Dallas was pretty much just as run n gun as PHX. Those 2 coaches had the most offensive and fast paced systems out of all the coaches then for the most part.
 
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PG defense is the most overrated thing in the NBA and rose isn't great at it anyway

The answer is Nash. What the hell does Rose give that Nash doesn't
 
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