$15 Minimum Wage is KILLING Seattle.

[Lakers Offseason]

THANK YOU!!!

I don't understand why people get mad at Min Wage workers, but never acknowledge how ridiculous the cost of living has gotten.

They poor people
But happily bend over and take it from rich people

Breh, no one is getting mad at the poor people SMH.

But going after small business owners, majority of whom are just middle class citizens, ain't the solution. These dudes aren't the 1%. Hell, they ain't even in the 10%. People really need to focus their outrage on the upper class and how they're accumulating their wealth. These dudes don't give a shyt about minimum wage workers. They're more worried about the tax loopholes the government is conveniently allowing big companies to exploit and how that affects their portfolio.

This shyt is really like scolding a kid stealing a candy bar meanwhile the accountants are crooked and stealing all the store's money and getting away with it.

Is stealing that candy bar unethical? Sure. But there are more serious issues that people should focus on.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Ok this is the 2nd time some has called me naive in this post and both times NEITHER of you stated the reason why? EXPLAIN WHY I AM NAIVE then so I can shut your argument down.

The fact that you stated that fast food jobs weren't intended for adults..... when the truth of the matter is, its always has been, and always will be..

No business model that generates billions is gonna target teeny boppers as the main engine for their work force......

 

[acri1]

@ that article

We really gonna act like it's not from a wildly biased far right source?

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

Owners closing businesses and people losing their jobs will take money out of the area................

Sure it will in the short term, in the long term they'll be more money in the community being spent.

 

[5n0man]

I've had employees who are trying to support 4+ children when they make under $10/hr. WTF part of the game is that? At some point you have to put part of the blame on the person for creating their own helpless situation.

A lot of people's money would go further if they were more responsible with it, and I'm not trying to be condescending at all because I fall into the same traps a lot of people do. I just take more accountability for my actions than some others choose to do. Raising min wage isn't going to solve everything if people take that higher wage and behave irresponsibly with it

I agree that people should be held accountable for their own actions, and they have been for decades, that's what the whole raising of minimum wage is about, the poor not being about to survive on bread crumbs.

But when should big businesses be held accountable for tanking the damn country, and shipping jobs over seas for more profits, then getting bailouts whenever their bullshyt comes to bite them in the ass.

I read somewhere a couple years ago that the amount of money used to bail out these companies and banks was enough to give every citizen of the u.s. 100,000$.
I don't know how true that is but it's amazing.

The biggest boom in American economy happened when companies employed workers at home, people made a decent living during that time, then a certain president decided that it would be more profitable to make it easy to allow these companies to ship work overseas for slave labor.

These companies have you convinced they cant afford it tho.

 

[BujuBoombastic]

I'll give you broke bytches a nickel to pull up my bootstraps.

This is why coli needs the rep system intact.. Asinine troll alias like this skunt is fukking up our site.

OT- No wonder other countries around the world is surpassing the USA....

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

some people can't provide for just themselves with a lot of jobs so the family size is irrelevant if it's not enough for one person to live off of.

I wouldn't encourage that lifestyle, but if you're telling me one person can't provide for themselves off one fulltime min wage job then I'm calling bullshyt. It wouldn't be extravagant but you should be able to provide food, shelter and transportation for yourself.

People get caught up in their wants and trying to live above their means, no matter how big/small more than anything.

If someone is in that position where they "can't" you'd have to seriously look at how they spend their income.

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

I agree that people should be held accountable for their own actions, and they have been for decades, that's what the whole raising of minimum wage is about, the poor not being about to survive on bread crumbs.

But when should big businesses be held accountable for tanking the damn country, and shipping jobs over seas for more profits, then getting bailouts whenever their bullshyt comes to bite them in the ass.

I read somewhere a couple years ago that the amount of money used to bail out these companies and banks was enough to give every citizen of the u.s. 100,000$.
I don't know how true that is but it's amazing.

The biggest boom in American economy happened when companies employed workers at home, people made a decent living during that time, then a certain president decided that it would be more profitable to make it easy to allow these companies to ship work overseas for slave labor.

These companies have you convinced they cant afford it tho.

My argument isn't pro big business. The people at the top are crooked I agree. I'm not trying to absolve them of any blame.

I just don't agree with the "I can't support my family off these wages" argument. I don't think it's actually true for most people, and if it is I think it's often the result of their own life choices just as much as anything else.

 

[87 others]

Honestly, it annoys the shyt out of me that the minimum wage for fast food jobs is going up. It's like rewarding loserdom. Oh, boo hoo - they can't feed their family. Maybe these dumb fukks shouldn't have started a family in the first place - just saying.

 

[Doobie Doo]

The fact that you stated that fast food jobs weren't intended for adults..... when the truth of the matter is, its always has been, and always will be..

No business model that generates billions is gonna target teeny boppers as the main engine for their work force......

Cashiers, Burger Flippers & fries are intended for teens and young adults and any person with limited skills. Cashiers, burger flippers are a corner of the multibillion dollar industry so that does not include managers, assistant managers etc. McDonalds has a 150% turnover rate for 2014, that means for every 10 people hired, 15 quit. Sounds like a low skilled position aimed at people with limited skills, young adults.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

They rather close up shop than give their workers a livable wage? Our country is fukked.

min wage is not mean to be lived on that's why you get a career and all that jazz

 

[5n0man]

My argument isn't pro big business. The people at the top are crooked I agree. I'm not trying to absolve them of any blame.

I just don't agree with the "I can't support my family off these wages" argument. I don't think it's actually true for most people, and if it is I think it's often the result of their own life choices just as much as anything else.

Just like you don't agree with that argument, I don't agree with the "I can't afford to pay people an honest living" arguments. You may not support big businesses but they do ALOT more harm to smaller businesses than worker wages do. I don't even wanna get into it.

Why can't we talk about the rich people that are ACTUALLY responsible for the state of this country.

The workforce in this country is fukked and it's not because of poor people's decisions.

Some people were born to lose but that has nothing to do with businesses needing to pay a wage equal to the cost of living and not relying on the government to fill in the gaps

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

Just like you don't agree with that argument, I don't agree with the "I can't afford to pay people an honest living" arguments. You may not support big businesses but they do ALOT more harm to smaller businesses than worker wages do. I don't even wanna get into it.

Why can't we talk about the rich people that are ACTUALLY responsible for the state of this country.

The workforce in this country is fukked and it's not because of poor people's decisions.

Some people were born to lose but that has nothing to do with businesses needing to pay a wage equal to the cost of living and not relying on the government to fill in the gaps

Who are you even arguing with?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Cashiers, Burger Flippers & fries are intended for teens and young adults and any person with limited skills. Cashiers, burger flippers are a corner of the multibillion dollar industry so that does not include managers, assistant managers etc. McDonalds has a 150% turnover rate for 2014, that means for every 10 people hired, 15 quit. Sounds like a low skilled position aimed at people with limited skills, young adults.

It doesn't matter if its low skilled... Labor output has value relative to the industry...period......except when it comes to the biggest employers in America.

Their game is so strong, they even got cats who aint got 2 nickels to rub together championing their ideologies for them like they to are gonna become billionaire owners one day....

Minimum wage was livable until the 80s..... 40% of the population is not gonna finish any type of trade school or post secondary education... so where are they gonna work?

Let me tell you where....the food service industry..whether its fast food or a restaurant that relies on tips...



In the 50s 60s 70s and some of the 80s, you could hit the factory\plant\warehouse\ right after high school and end up with a decent retirement and a lil cheddar to help your kids through college....

Explained to me what happened to those jobs and why 10s of millions of people don't deserve a livable wage cause you consider call center skills> than fast food customer service skills.....?

Any cat with a lil hustle sense can see that you need people that ask you do you want fries with that for this current economic model to remain sustainable....but if people in the service\retail industry can't get a livable wage, then the whole model gets turned on its ear and not even your lil help desk job is gonna paying worth a damn...

Trust me

 

[5n0man]

Who are you even arguing with?

You think we should blame the poor for their own actions because it's not businesses responsibility to pay more than what they want.

But this country is countless dollars in dept, largely due to the bad decisions of banks and businesses.

We the working tax payer is supposed to pick up the tab for their shyt.