$200k+ with a fake resume [resume in OP]

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We are getting specific . I do data visualisation to help sales. Companies don’t know what is going on and I help use the data to select the marketing mix. Google tableau analyst breh. We work on day rates and you’ll see yourself what it is.

I said sales as I’m not trynna put myself out there. Sales force/Tableau/Cognos. That’s mid 6 figures per platform
I work in a top silicon valley adtech company and I interact with Tableau daily,not to mention we hire some of the smartest data scientists, engineers from top universities, from google, from facebook, etc, and I still find what you do to be extremely hard to believe. I'm not a hater, I wish people to do the best, I've helped placed people in companies, but I don't want people to think they can completely make shyt up and get a high paying jobs, without at least getting caught.

I can literally talk tableau, data visualization, salesforce, crm, cognos, datarama, APIs, all day long and I have a very very hard time believing that tableau is a 200k skill, it's more of a 50k skill that any junior analyst should have.
Also, media mix modeling cannot be done with tableau, that's baby stuff. Tableau cannot handle something as complex as MMM. I literally done this myself for a major agency 3 years ago with an entire team of data scientists with PHDs and even the PHDs did not earn 200K. I guess things changed, more power to you.
 
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I work in a top silicon valley adtech company and I interact with Tableau daily,not to mention we hire some of the smartest data scientists, engineers from top universities, from google, from facebook, etc, and I still find what you do to be extremely hard to believe. I'm not a hater, I wish people to do the best, I've helped placed people in companies, but I don't want people to think they can completely make shyt up and get a high paying jobs, without at least getting caught.

I can literally talk tableau, data visualization, salesforce, crm, cognos, datarama, APIs, all day long and I have a very very hard time believing that tableau is a 200k skill, it's more of a 50k skill that any junior analyst should have.

I consult. I do this for Digital transformation projects . I found a niche. The skill isn’t 200k but the dayrate fontraxt pays that. $1k a day. You can find the all over indeed and monster
 

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It was finesse at the start. Now I know my shyt. Finesse got me in the door and led to my $850 a day role. Which led to my next gig

Yeah, and that's great, I get what you're saying about learning on the job and moving on, but in my industry, where people want to see articles, connect with prior researchers or clients, it would be much harder. If you find a way to fake a submission to a journal, let me know LOL.
 

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I work in a top silicon valley adtech company and I interact with Tableau daily,not to mention we hire some of the smartest data scientists, engineers from top universities, from google, from facebook, etc, and I still find what you do to be extremely hard to believe. I'm not a hater, I wish people to do the best, I've helped placed people in companies, but I don't want people to think they can completely make shyt up and get a high paying jobs, without at least getting caught.

I can literally talk tableau, data visualization, salesforce, crm, cognos, datarama, APIs, all day long and I have a very very hard time believing that tableau is a 200k skill, it's more of a 50k skill that any junior analyst should have.
Also, media mix modeling cannot be done with tableau, that's baby stuff. Tableau cannot handle something as complex as MMM. I literally done this myself for a major agency 3 years ago with an entire team of data scientists with PHDs and even the PHDs did not earn 200K. I guess things changed, more power to you.

I'm with this. We hire analyst for both sales force and tableau, for salesforce it's data modeling and I'm sure none of them makes over 80k; for Tableau- we don't have anyone who specializes in it specifically but I'm in agreement that it's a 50k skill...a lot of our interns are told to get to work using Tableau and most of our data analyst/scientist come with the skill as part of their arsenal. A Salesforce architect might make around $150k but you don't typically have one of those in house- or at-least we don't...we just contract out when we need something done that our Admin can't do.

I do think it's interesting to be able to finesse on this level. Would be impossible in my industry because of the niche, and as someone who sits on hiring panels quite often, it's crazy to me that some companies HR procedures are that lax. We request transcripts, recommendations and we do a full background check but hey, that due diligence is one them.
 

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I'm with this. We hire analyst for both sales force and tableau, for salesforce it's data modeling and I'm sure none of them makes over 80k; for Tableau- we don't have anyone who specializes in it specifically but I'm in agreement that it's a 50k skill...a lot of our interns are told to get to work using Tableau and most of our data analyst/scientist come with the skill as part of their arsenal. A Salesforce architect might make around $150k but you don't typically have one of those in house- or at-least we don't...we just contract out when we need something done that our Admin can't do.

I do think it's interesting to be able to finesse on this level. Would be impossible in my industry because of the niche, and as someone who sits on hiring panels quite often, it's crazy to me that some companies HR procedures are that lax. We request transcripts, recommendations and we do a full background check but hey, that due diligence is one them.
Fam. Dayrate. This isn’t a typical
I’m not just some tableau sales force analyst
Everyone I work with in this field knows this shyt is a jugggg
 
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See even this sounds sus to me. Now all I can speak of is where I work (county job), but I know HR here would never let someone get away with listing your homie as a reference. You can’t just say "Reference: Steve Smith (phone number)" you need to list the person, their company and their title, and HR will likely attempt to verify that.

Same with schooling... it's so easy to verify someone's degree online now. You can do it in like 5 minutes. So again, I'm not seeing how a reputable company is letting these things slide.

Maybe you found the perfect situation where it all came together for you breh, but I dunno. It's a sticky situation though. The last company I worked at, I know for a fact they did NOT check a few things on my resume... BUT I remember when new management came in, they went through everyone's backgrounds and verified everything and if I had been lying about anything at that point, I would have gotten murked.
Might depend on your industry. No one on top in my industry could get away with it...most of the top positions are networked and positions changes either in house or from one organization to another tend to be choreographed with other moves and changes - the scrutiny isn't less, just people already know 'he went to xxxx undergrad and yyyyy grad school; unless you've published something or done great research, it's hard to make it up to that level. No one is just finessing their way into a $200k payday. The industry is small too, so if you claimed to have worked somewhere else, cutthroat people will do the research. If you make up a company people WILL emphasize that they've never heard of it...

So, props if you can get away with this, but I know you can't in my industry. It's too niche.
you guys are STILL missing the point...


you do not lie and finesse your way from broke bum nikka to 6 figures in a day... a year... 5 years

you finesse ONE TIME... the very first job. this doesn't need to be a big role or a big company... as long as it's in the field. i don't know what y'all do but lets say it's IT

you don't start off trying to work at microsoft... you lie about your role on the coli... lie about it's numbers.. lie about what you did to create it... then give a google voice number to your homie, who is "the owner of the coli"

whatever they ask for, it can be made... make up the degree or not... you still have 5 years experience as "lead program director of the largest hip hop forum in the entire world..."


this might get you entry level to some start up tech company to be some help desk guy... after a year or 3 working there.. boom.. you now have 3 years of REAL EXPERIENCE... your next resume CAN have the coli on there, but really doesn't need it. cause you have the real shyt now.


now flip, flip, flip, flip, flip that job.... 10 years down the line, you have 10 years experience, 10 years worth of worthy titles, 10 years worth of references, and the coli isn't anywhere on your resume anymore.


but you gotta be working on that hustle the whole time. you can't show up and do your work and leave. you gotta play all star. just imagine will smith in that happyness movie. except he lied to get in the program.. then busted his ass through life and became a millionaire.. but technically, he never had the right schooling or experience to be up in there... he just finessed his way in

now imagine if the finesse was a lie... that kid wasn't even his... he just used him to get in the door to lay down the finesse... doesn't change everything he earned after that. it was still real experience... but if he didn't finesse.. he'd have had to go to college or some shyt

well some people are too old to be starting a 4 year program... so breh is saying finesse your way into that job and you can work your ass off to come up off i
 

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you guys are STILL missing the point...


you do not lie and finesse your way from broke bum nikka to 6 figures in a day... a year... 5 years

you finesse ONE TIME... the very first job. this doesn't need to be a big role or a big company... as long as it's in the field. i don't know what y'all do but lets say it's IT

you don't start off trying to work at microsoft... you lie about your role on the coli... lie about it's numbers.. lie about what you did to create it... then give a google voice number to your homie, who is "the owner of the coli"

whatever they ask for, it can be made... make up the degree or not... you still have 5 years experience as "lead program director of the largest hip hop forum in the entire world..."


this might get you entry level to some start up tech company to be some help desk guy... after a year or 3 working there.. boom.. you now have 3 years of REAL EXPERIENCE... your next resume CAN have the coli on there, but really doesn't need it. cause you have the real shyt now.


now flip, flip, flip, flip, flip that job.... 10 years down the line, you have 10 years experience, 10 years worth of worthy titles, 10 years worth of references, and the coli isn't anywhere on your resume anymore.


but you gotta be working on that hustle the whole time. you can't show up and do your work and leave. you gotta play all star. just imagine will smith in that happyness movie. except he lied to get in the program.. then busted his ass through life and became a millionaire.. but technically, he never had the right schooling or experience to be up in there... he just finessed his way in

now imagine if the finesse was a lie... that kid wasn't even his... he just used him to get in the door to lay down the finesse... doesn't change everything he earned after that. it was still real experience... but if he didn't finesse.. he'd have had to go to college or some shyt

well some people are too old to be starting a 4 year program... so breh is saying finesse your way into that job and you can work your ass off to come up off i
You get it . I keep saying the lie was to get my foot in the door and no one is listening.
 

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What have been your job titles over the years since you started working at agencies? And what's you title now?
I don’t work in an ad agency. I work in advertising client side. Role name changes but effectively i’m head of “” right now.

Product Owner & Technical Project Manager are my other go to gigs
 

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My favorite topic. Finessing the absolute fukk out of these cacs. Great thread.

Op is correct. The higher the position the less scrutiny your resume and past gets. I have a college diploma yet im in mangement. I routinely interview MBA and other masters degree holders, lol.

Real talk. That's one hell of a secret about interviewing people don't know. Nigs revealing too much in this thread. :lolbron:

If you finesse the game for 5+ years, job hopping, racking up experience (fabricated or not) no one gives a shyt when you start applying for higher up positions. I started embellishing (aka lying) to get my foot in the door in my late teens. By the time I hit mid 20s, my resume was A1 for a black dude from the hood with no degree. Unfortunately, too many nigs start trying to finesse the game too late, falling victim to typical safe interviewing/career advice in their youth. By the time they start pushing 30, they're behind everyone else who had the sense to research, lie their asses off and give great interviews after high school/college. Interviewing is just a god damn performance. It's not real, it's not true. It's all about how can I sell these cacs on a bullshyt ass lie for 30 mins.

My advice to anyone trying to finesse the game at this point is this -- embrace your dark side (do whatever it takes) and be willing to fukk up. repeatedly. I'm not a scary dude -- I've had an offer rescinded before. I've bombed many, many interviews trying to learn the game. I've been on literally over 100. But after those short couple years of racking up those rejections, I can say that I have zero college debt (no degree) and I make way more money than i'm supposed to. It's a dog eat dog world out here. You can be timid and hesitant with these cacs, or you step ya bullshytin skills up and go and get what's yours. :birdman:
 

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See even this sounds sus to me. Now all I can speak of is where I work (county job), but I know HR here would never let someone get away with listing your homie as a reference. You can’t just say "Reference: Steve Smith (phone number)" you need to list the person, their company and their title, and HR will likely attempt to verify that.

Same with schooling... it's so easy to verify someone's degree online now. You can do it in like 5 minutes. So again, I'm not seeing how a reputable company is letting these things slide.

Maybe you found the perfect situation where it all came together for you breh, but I dunno. It's a sticky situation though. The last company I worked at, I know for a fact they did NOT check a few things on my resume... BUT I remember when new management came in, they went through everyone's backgrounds and verified everything and if I had been lying about anything at that point, I would have gotten murked.

Whether it's national government, county, municipality, or whatever, it is a totally different animal. They tend to do everything by the book. They are in no hurry and they have all the time in the world to interview 100 people for some lowly clerical job and call references, etc.

I think I have only had one job where one of my references was called. A lot of people use me as a reference and I have only received received two calls and it was the same business both times. California is an at will state and as long as they like you and you have a clean criminal history, you're good to go. They know that if you oversold yourself and can't actually do the work, they can just fire you and try someone else.

I fully believe that a person with no experience could go on LinkedIn and randomly add relevant people, fabricate a job history, and get jobs.
 

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I do advertising, cpa/shopify with adwords and facebook and i know 50% whats on your resume. Might have to start finessing my way into a desk job
 
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