2014 Nba Off Season Thread

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

All you're doing is finding any lil rumor that suits your agenda and running with it like it's gospel. When the contrary (that they'll end up picking Parker or Wiggins), has been thrown out there more than these 'rumors' you speak of.

Them picking Wiggins or Parker didn't start until Embiid got hurt. That alone should tell you something. It actually should tell you a lot.

Now combine that with the 'rumor' of them targeting Favors, only reinforces my point that ideally they want a big over a wing.

Frankly, I think these trade rumors are fueled by the fact the Cavs don't love Wiggins and are somewhat disappointed Parker is a little heavy and didn't blow them away in his workout.

Does that mean they will absolutely trade the pick? No. But it does mean the pick is on the table for the right offer.

The pick being on the table is, IMO, more about their belief that Embiid is the best player in this draft, period. Although injured, for the right offer, they could move the pick and get additional assets while getting the guy they like the most.

Not really hard to understand what's going on here.

 

[NatiboyB]

Of course... Embiid over the three you mentioned. No brainer.

Also think its a moderate chance Philly takes Embiid.

It's so much misdirection going on we may just need to stay at 1 and take him because every team from 3 and up could take him...

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

It's so much misdirection going on we may just need to stay at 1 and take him because every team from 3 and up could take him...

I think this is what they Cavs are discussing amongst themselves. Should they take the guy they want the most even though he's injured or pick between Wiggins and Parker.

 

[NatiboyB]

I think this is what they Cavs are discussing amongst themselves. Should they take the guy they want the most even though he's injured or pick between Wiggins and Parker.

Who is it that the jazz want if it's wiggins or Parker....And we are also high on them I say pick them but if Embiid is there at 5 we make the deal with Utah.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Them picking Wiggins or Parker didn't start until Embiid got hurt. That alone should tell you something. It actually should tell you a lot.

This contradicts what you said previously.

Now combine that with the 'rumor' of them targeting Favors, only reinforces my point that ideally they want a big over a wing.

No, that doesn't reinforce your point. And in fact it's the Jazz who are doing the initiating - NOT CLEVELAND. Utah want Wiggins, and it looks like they'll offer just about anything to get him. This has NOTHING to do with the Cavs targeting Favors. Can you stop lying?

Frankly, I think these trade rumors are fueled by the fact the Cavs don't love Wiggins and are somewhat disappointed Parker is a little heavy and didn't blow them away in his workout.

Stop it.

Does that mean they will absolutely trade the pick? No. But it does mean the pick is on the table for the right offer.

REALLLY? I didn't know that one..... *rolls eyes*

The point is, you posted some dumb shyt of "A lot of rumors about Cavs moving out of #1. That should tell you how they feel about Wiggins and Parker"... when really it couldn't be further from what's really going on - in that the majority of the rumors are that they're split over who to take - Wiggins or Parker. The only substantial leaks of them trading the pick, have come from other teams offering assets... not the other way around.

Not really hard to understand what's going on here.

Yeah you're right, it's certainly not - try dressing up your bullshyt a lil better next time if you want it to go undetected.

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

So are you saying the Cavs clearly didn't have Embiid #1 on their board before the foot injury?

Everything else you typing is bullshyt. If the Cavs 'loved' Wiggins or Parker, why did the rumors about them trading down start when Embiid got hurt? Certainly you don't hear rumors of Milwaukee or Philly trading down, do you?

I wonder why

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So are you saying the Cavs clearly didn't have Embiid #1 on their board before the foot injury?

No, you saying "Them picking Wiggins or Parker didn't start until..." is contradicting yourself from what you previously said about the Cavs having little-to-no interest in taking either of them, and trading the pick instead.

Everything else you typing is bullshyt. If the Cavs 'loved' Wiggins or Parker, why did the rumors about them trading down start when Embiid got hurt? Certainly you don't hear rumors of Milwaukee or Philly trading down, do you?

NO. everything you typed is bullshyt. WHERE ARE THESE RUMORS OF THEM TRADING THE PICK? POST THEM. IF THERE'S ALL THESE RUMORS OF THEM TRADING THE PICK, AND VERY FEW OF THEM NOT TOO KEEN ON WIGGINS/PARKER... surely you'll have no problem in finding them



Show me where the Cavaliers are targeting Favors
Show me ALL these rumors of the Cavaliers not wanting Wiggins/Parker


I'll wait.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Cavs torn on No. 1 heading into draft


Just two days before the NBA draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers are split on whether to takeJabari Parker or Andrew Wiggins with the top overall pick, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

"They are torn," one source close to the situation told ESPN.com. "They met for three hours, and all they talked about was those two guys."

Added another industry source: "They haven't come to a decision yet."


With multiple trade offers coming in and LeBron James deciding to opt out of his contract today, the Cavs' decision may have just got even harder.

The Philadelphia 76ers, Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz have all offered their high lottery picks plus a veteran to move up to No. 1.

Of the offers they've received, a source says the Cavs aren't enamored by either the Sixers' offer (Thaddeus Young and the No. 3 pick) nor the Jazz's offer (Derrick Favors and the No. 5 pick). However, the Cavs do have some interest in the Magic's offer of Arron Afflalo, the No. 4 pick and the No. 12 pick.

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11127401/cleveland-cavaliers-torn-draft-first

But according to @Eye Cue 182 there's ALL these rumors the Cavs don't want Wiggins or Parker, because they're targeting Favors instead.

 

[red222]

One source said that the Kings' focus, for the moment, is Thursday's draft and perhaps swinging a trade involving the No. 8 overall pick. Sources told ESPN.com's Andy Katz on Tuesday that Sacramento has narrowed its potential draft pick trade partners down to Boston, Phoenix and Philadelphia -- three teams that have multiple first-round picks.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...-sacramento-kings-discussing-josh-smith-trade

 

[Recca Gatsby]

This dude Eye Cue is going for a victory lap on that WOPY

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

This dude Eye Cue is going for a victory lap on that WOPY

No, I'm just going to have another couple victims on my list. Go ask about me.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This dude Eye Cue is going for a victory lap on that WOPY

Funny this is:

If he liked Parker over both Embiid and Wiggins: he'd go on to dismiss any reports that Parker didn't perform well in the workout, that the Cavs were never thinking about drafting Embiid before his injury and that they never really considered Wiggins.

If he liked Wiggins over both Parker and Embiid: he'd go on to say Parker is a defensive liability and is not to be trusted because he tanked his workout, that the Cavs were never thinking about Embiid before his injury and we'd get breakdown after breakdown on how Wiggins is the next Jordan on some @Swagnificent type shyt.

He can't let facts/reality get in the way of his / for players.

 

[MIAlien]

I haven't seen anyone discussing Orlando's offer to the Cavs. According to RealGM, they've offered Aaron Afflalo, the 4th pick, and the 12th for The first pick. THAT deal is better than the Jazz deal…

http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...andos-Offer-Of-Afflalo-Nos-4-12-For-No-1-Pick

The Philadelphia 76ers, Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz have all offered their high lottery picks plus a veteran to move up to No. 1 in a deal with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

The Cavaliers aren't enamored by offers from the 76ers (Thad Young and the No. 3 pick) and Jazz (Derrick Favors and the No. 5 pick).

But the Magic offer of Arron Afflalo, along with the No. 4 and No. 12 pick is attractive to the Cavaliers.

The Cavaliers have strong interest in signing LeBron James and acquiring Afflalo would be seen as a strong move.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Man teams really tryna trade up for Wiggins . These gm's ain't shyt.

 

[NatiboyB]

I haven't seen anyone discussing Orlando's offer to the Cavs. According to RealGM, they've offered Aaron Afflalo, the 4th pick, and the 12th for The first pick. THAT deal is better than the Jazz deal…

http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...andos-Offer-Of-Afflalo-Nos-4-12-For-No-1-Pick

I'm not sure if it's better than the jazz deal...
#1/Jack for Burk, Favors, 5/23

Vs

#1 for affalo, 4/12

However I'm good with either 1...I just want some assets and Embiid.