2014 Nba Off Season Thread

[NatiboyB]

@ dudes caping for Wiggins over Love.

You dudes have got to be kidding me. Love or Wiggins next to LeBron?? Cooooooome on, people.

Let's get with it man.

Man we are over reacting...Lets just make sure Bron is really coming...than we go after love...But until then this team is Kyries.

 

[DPresidential]

If somehow ..w/ Lebron & Melo really wanting to play together actually is the fuel to the fire...

And the Knicks do a Sign & Trade for Melo to the Cavs w/ Wiggins going to NY...

I'll be

W/ the Jason Kidd weirdness, Embiid "false tweets" & PJ Hairston fighting high School kids...

 

[NatiboyB]

If somehow ..w/ Lebron & Melo really wanting to play together actually is the fuel to the fire...

And the Knicks do a Sign & Trade for Melo to the Cavs w/ Wiggins going to NY...

I'll be

W/ the Jason Kidd weirdness, Embiid "false tweets" & PJ Hairston fighting high School kids...

You'd put paws on one of those overgrown kids also.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You might be right about that... But the media/public is always gonna see it as title or bust no matter where he plays

Blatt will be worth 10 wins at least and Bron, well you do the math. They'll be a nice team, hopefully they don't let that expectation shyt catch them slippin.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Kyrie has panned out. He's the most clutch player in the league + they have cap room to land a star(s).

Right, so you've basically just projected their floors and given instances of how it may go wrong and no examples of how it may go right?


That's fine, what I want to know is why did you even quote me in the beginning? It seems like your arguing against something I never argued for.

He's had clutch moments but I wouldn't call him the most clutch player in the league.

Maybe cause I don't believe it will go right. I don't really think all that highly of any of those Cavs prospects. But we'll agree to disagree.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@ dudes caping for Wiggins over Love.

You dudes have got to be kidding me. Love or Wiggins next to LeBron?? Cooooooome on, people.

Let's get with it man.

Let's take a 19 year old that MAY pan out over a proven 25/14 PF, brehs.

The fact that you two idiots think that I'm saying: Wiggins is better than Love or that Wiggins will compliment Bron better or that Wiggins will help the team more than Love will, goes to show how bad your reading comprehension is. All that I'm relaying to you is the information that I've read of what the Cavs want to do.

If you have a problem with it, direct it at Cleveland's FO, not me.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

He's had clutch moments but I wouldn't call him the most clutch player in the league.

Maybe cause I don't believe it will go right. I don't really think all that highly of any of those Cavs prospects. But we'll agree to disagree.

Well stats say he is the most clutch player in the league. That's fine and you don't have to. Point is even if they don't all reach their potentials. They'll still have Bron, Irving and money to land an elite player.

 

[SchoolboyC]

The fact that you two idiots think that I'm saying: Wiggins is better than Love or that Wiggins will compliment Bron better or that Wiggins will help the team more than Love will, goes to show how bad your reading comprehension is. All that I'm relaying to you is the information that I've read of what the Cavs want to do.

If you have a problem with it, direct it at Cleveland's FO, not me.

I was making a general statement, wasn't singling you out at all...

Well stats say he is the most clutch player in the league. That's fine and you don't have to. Point is even if they don't all reach their potentials. They'll still have Bron, Irving and money to land an elite player.

I doubt any marquee free agent other than Bron who has ties there would sign in Cleveland anyway, given how they prefer to play for big market teams. Unless you're talking about via trading.

I still believe he'll return to Miami, but if he does actually go back to Cleveland then hopefully it's not like the first time around and the Cavs FO does a better job with the supporting cast.

 

[Listen]

http://greenstreet.weei.com/

So since Ainge is still trying to get Love, I saw this Gem of a 'creative' 3 way trade show up on a Celtics blog...

CELTICS GET

Kevin Love ($15.7 million in 2014-15, $16.7M player option in 2015-16)
Gordon Hayward (restricted free agent to be signed for double-digit millions annually)
Kevin Martin ($6.8M in 2014-15, $7.1M in 2015-16, $7.4M player option in 2016-17)

While saddled with Martin’s salary for the next three seasons, the C’s land both Love and Hayward. Fireworks.

TIMBERWOLVES GET

Derrick Favors ($13.0M in 2014-15, $12.0M in 2015-16, $11.1M in 2016-17, $12.0M in 2017-18)
Trey Burke ($2.6M in 2014-15, $2.7M in 2015-16, $3.4M in 2016-17, $4.6M qualifying offer in 2017-18)
Jeff Green ($9.2M in 2014-15, $9.2M player option in 2015-16)
Avery Bradley (restricted free agent to be signed for 4 years, $32 million)
2015 first-round pick (Clippers)

While ridding themselves of Martin’s salary, Minnesota acquires a replacement for Love and a backcourt for the future while assuming Green’s salary (and production) in exchange for a first-round pick next summer.

JAZZ GET

Marcus Smart (rookie scale contract can be traded 30 days from signing)
Jared Sullinger ($1.4M in 2014-15, $2.3M in 2015-16, $3.3M qualifying offer in 2017-18)
Brandon Bass ($6.9M in 2014-15)
Keith Bogans ($5.3M non-guaranteed in 2014-15)
2015 first-round pick (Celtics)
2016 first-round pick (Nets)

On the surface, Utah is the real loser, parting ways with three of their most productive players. However, the Jazz upgrade from Burke to Smart alongside Dante Exum, cementing a future backcourt worth building around. They also replace Favors with Sullinger while freeing up more than $30 million through 2018 upon cutting Bogans and either letting Bass walk or dealing his expiring contract again at the deadline. Utah also gets a pair of first-round picks, giving them two apiece for the next three summers. An under-26 starting lineup of Smart, Exum, Jeremy Evans, Sullinger and Enes Kanter with six first-round picks through 2017 is a foundation for future success.

In essence, the Celtics trade Smart, Bradley, Green, Sullinger, Bass, Bogans and three first-round picks for Love and Hayward — a handful of quarters for a pair of dollars. Eating Martin’s contract, losing Bradley’s defense and parting with both 2015 first-round picks are tough pills to swallow, but a triumvirate of Rondo, Love and Hayward makes the Celtics one of the best four teams in the East this season once the roster fills out around them.

This is a pipe dream, probably, considering Bradley and Hayward would have to agree to sign-and-trade deals before waiting a month until Smart’s rookie contract becomes eligible to be dealt. Still, this is the type of creativity required of Ainge when searching for a third team to pull into a potential Love deal. Every day there’s a new idea.

 

[trick]

Wow, what would Philly get out of that deal? It would help the Sixers get to the salary floor...I guess they might get some 2nds and a conditional first out of this?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@jaguar paw how long did you know all this shyt was going on for?

 

[THASTUNNA]

damn Philly just don't give a fukk and you know they'll buy Amare out...Houston better hurry up and try to move damn Lin and the Cavs better find a take for Jack or Thornton for the nets.

same thing I was thinking

 

[jaguar paw]

@jaguar paw how long did you know all this shyt was going on for?

I've had it drilled into my head for the past week or so that plans were in motion. (I was and am I still not 100 percent sure he knows where he is going)

Like I said earlier, it begun with Maverick. He's been telling people this since the finals ended.

(Woj is backing that up in his article he wrote this morning)

 

[NatiboyB]

http://greenstreet.weei.com/

So since Ainge is still trying to get Love, I saw this Gem of a 'creative' 3 way trade show up on a Celtics blog...

I'm almost positive the Jazz are high on Burke and could of picked Smart over Exum if they valued him more.

 

[Listen]

I'm almost positive the Jazz are high on Burke and could of picked Smart over Exum if they valued him more.

Sure, I think the idea was more the fact that they could swap out Favors and that money for Sullinger, still replace Burke with a player that must have considered at 5 and that was taken at 6, and shed 30 Million in cap with 6 1st round picks in the next 3 years. I doubt they would do it either, but at least makes some sense to me. Plus, by bringing Utah into the mix, Minnesota would get an actual roster for Love, so I can see why he would match up the 3 teams.