2020 Democratic National Convention Discussion Thread (August 17-20)

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You realize who we’re talking about, right? He thinks the rules don’t apply to him, and definitely was no aware that the president can’t simply do what he wants. He would definitely attempt to do it.



Every time he appears on camera, just LOOKS like he’s not going to make it.

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If you mean an empty gesture that will gain zero traction or results then sure
 

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Being good at exposing classism seems to create a massive blindspot in people like him for the way the rest of the world works. The problems he identifies need to be fixed, but whether he thinks so or not, some issues are more pressing.
TBF, liberals do the same thing you are criticizing Stoller over.
 

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This was a large part of my issue with Obama’s speech, it’s basically clapter comedy, designed to elicit head nods from the already converted. He’s incredibly polished, which is a skill in and of itself, but he rarely ever says anything profound or novel or actually interesting. He’s always at an arm’s length, never any surprises or moments of genuine passion. But that’s because his ideology is firmly Mainstream American, Ken Burns stuff. He always has to couch his criticisms with rote optimistic pablum. Whenever I hear an Obama speech I feel like I'm eating a white person's attempt at making jerk chicken. The spices are there but it just ain't hitting right.

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I’m already seeing a lot of takes saying he gave one of the best speeches of all time tonight and I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. He did have some hot lines in the middle though, I have to give him that.

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it's also why he cant help get anybody else elected. he didnt really address the issue that was keeping you from voting for the person, be it hillary or any number of dems in midterm election years, but if you already rock with him, he made your night.

his ideology is middle of the road but also, he is a an appeaser of power. he probably learned that being the only half black person in most of the places he was at during his childhood. it worked tremendously so i cant even really blame him, but there are consequences to that.
 

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it's also why he cant help get anybody else elected. he didnt really address the issue that was keeping you from voting for the person, be it hillary or any number of dems in midterm election years, but if you already rock with him, he made your night.
To play devil’s advocate, what if that was the point?

Instead of trying to appeal to undecideds, what if he is telling his people to vote like 2008?
 

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I’m not saying he could, I’m saying he would try by executive order. He would get shut down, but don’t put it past that man to do anything.
Breh, you don’t know what you are talking about. I’m not saying this to insult you, but you need to read the constitution. Learn how an amendment is made. Trump’s term ends January 20.
 
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