2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[duncanthetall]

I hear you, but it seems he is in good shape

Damn. Did he get a lil bump? Guess that didn’t go as planned for certain folk

 

[South Paw]

Bernie got this

 

[duncanthetall]

Hope Bernie voters get hall passes to miss an hour of work without losing their jobs to go vote in the primaries

“Wine moms” and “elitists” will surely be able to afford the free time

Lol with this Republican shyt

 

[Pressure]

 

[Pressure]

Damn. Did he get a lil bump? Guess that didn’t go as planned for certain folk

I'm not sure much has changed tbh

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I have no problem with someone changing their mind for good reasons.

Neither do I. There's a difference between becoming enlightened through critical thinking and data analysis when you're middle-aged vs. consistently being of sound character and principle and on the side of the oppressed and working/middle class your whole life because you mean it.

I'm not going to vote for the former when the latter is on the ballot because I can't trust that Liz will fight for any of the shyt she's talking. She was a Republican until she was 46! What was she doing and thinking during all the progressive social movements of the 60's and 70's?

 

[blotter]

The original bros

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

We're not talking about electing someone to the lifetime activist HOF, we're talking about electing someone to the presidency. Record is important, but it's not a deciding factor in this discussion.

And you're acting like she was some Republican operative or politician fighting against these issues. Her Republican affiliation was totally passive. Whenever she's been in a position of power to use her influence to make change, she was on the side of the progressive movement.

I agree we're not talking about a lifetime activist HOF. We're talking about character and principle, concepts that you seem to not have any value for.

You seem to just repeat the campaign talking points of whatever candidate you supporter, be it Trump in 2016 or Liz in 2020 like a stenographer. For instance, why are you referring to her Republican affiliation as "totally passive"? What reason do you have to know that's true other than she said so? What is a "totally passive Republican" anyway? People that knew her during the over her half her in which she was Republican recall her being an engaged conservative with well-formed opinion since high school...

The Story Elizabeth Warren Isn’t Telling

Katrina cochran can still remember clearly how her close friend Liz Herring would needle her about her liberal politics when the two would sit next to each other at Northwest Classen High School in Oklahoma, and during the years after.

“Besides the Democratic Party,” Herring, whose success on the debate team would win her a college scholarship, would say, “what other subversive organizations are you a member of?”

She discusses her three older brothers, making sure to note that all of them were in the military and that two of them are Republicans. What Warren rarely—if ever—mentions, however, is that during this entire formative period of her adult life, she herself was a conservative. “She was very against a lot of governmental controls,” Cochran, who remained close with Warren through her 20s, told me. “She thought people should have the right to make all the money they could.”

Warren has this in common with the previous Democratic presidential nominee. Hillary Clinton, just two years older than Warren, famously began her political life as a “Goldwater girl” in high school in the 1960s. But while Clinton’s flirtation with the right was brief, Warren’s was not. Though she was not politically active, well into the ’80s Warren was espousing the views of an ascendant conservative legal movement that championed free markets over the intervention of government regulation, her colleagues from the time told me. In scholarly papers and policy debates with her law-school comrades, Warren regularly took the side of corporations over consumers. “She drank the Kool-Aid. She definitely believed in that,” recalled Calvin Johnson, a law professor at the University of Texas at Austin and a former neighbor and commuting buddy of Warren’s.

Warren was decidedly not left-wing. She had studied under the conservative legal scholar Henry Manne and was a follower of the free-market “law and economics” discipline he founded, which “became something of a fad,” says Julius Getman, a UT Austin law professor who was a friend and jogging partner of Warren’s. (It was at a conference known as Manne Camp that Warren met her second and current husband, Bruce Mann.)

Johnson, who has stayed intermittently in touch with Warren over the years, told me he suspected that UT Austin hired Warren in part because it wanted the law-and-economics discipline represented on its faculty. “I think we looked down our nose at her because she’s from Rutgers,” he said, “and we [hired] her because she [wrote] well with supply-and-demand curves from a conservative point of view.”

She became liberal at age 46 after studying bankruptcy law as a professor. She was moved to being a progressive due to researching data, not a moral sense of justice, or outrage at the conditions and injustice face by people.

Again, this is what I don't understand about the Liz stans. How can you ride for someone who lived through radical leftist social revolution and was a Republican who never gave a single fukk about any of it? If it was just her and bunch of neoliberals on the ballot, I'd vote for her, but when you have Bernie Sanders, a real deal social justice warrior of unquestionable principle and the lifelong resume to prove, she can

During the civil right movement, she was a Republican...the labor movement, socialist movement, even shyt like feminism and LGBTQ rights which she is happy to embrace now, she was never there. She was talking about how to make markets more efficient. She's happy to be a fake minority professor at Harvard, but she was never involved with any American Indian affairs and tribal leaders said they never knew her. Glad I never bought into this bullshyt narrative about her being a progressive warrior. "I'm just a player in the game" was the most revealing thing she said this whole election cycle.

The other day I went to pick up my daughter from her mother's parents house and parked on the public sidewalk with about 10% of the length of my car in front of their neighbor's property line for literally seconds before this white lady came out of her house jogging and stopped in the street and just stared into my car. I guess she felt entitled that I had to roll my window down and address her. I rolled my window down and before I could say anything thankfully my daughter's grandfather came out the house and politely told her I'm her I'm here for them. Then her whole facial expression changed and she got nice and said to me "Oh ok! I thought you were just parked in front of my house" then started laughing and smiling and trying to say something else. I just rolled the window up and didn't say anything. That's who Elizabeth Warren is to me. Can't believe you nikkas are stanning a white soccer mom with vapid woke zingers as the peoples champ.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

The story she isn't telling? She told it to the Intercept in 2018.

Elizabeth Warren on Her Journey From Low-Information Voter


Principle wouldn't allow someone to advocate against the prison and military industrial complex then vote/lobby for legislation that empowers those institutions. Principle would be someone tackling all aspects of racism head on instead of making excuses for it. You guys really need to stop deifying this man. He's just a politician. He's not some messianic figure.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The story she isn't telling? She told it to the Intercept in 2018.

Elizabeth Warren on Her Journey From Low-Information Voter

All she said in that article is she was basically a low information voter who didn’t take politics too seriously.

Meanwhile, many of her old friends, classmates, and colleagues said she was a Republican with well-fleshed out opinions on free markets and the role of government in the economy and was vocal about politics frequently dating back to high school.

Oochie wally One mic

 

[King Kreole]

I agree we're not talking about a lifetime activist HOF. We're talking about character and principle, concepts that you seem to not have any value for.

You seem to just repeat the campaign talking points of whatever candidate you supporter, be it Trump in 2016 or Liz in 2020 like a stenographer. For instance, why are you referring to her Republican affiliation as "totally passive"? What reason do you have to know that's true other than she said so? What is a "totally passive Republican" anyway? People that knew her during the over her half her in which she was Republican recall her being an engaged conservative with well-formed opinion since high school...

The Story Elizabeth Warren Isn’t Telling









She became progressive at age 46 after studying bankruptcy law as a professor. She was moved to being a progressive due to researching data, not a moral sense of justice, or outrage at the conditions and injustice face by people.

Again, this is what I don't understand about the Liz stans. How can you ride for someone who lived through radical leftist social revolution and was a Republican who never gave a single fukk about any of it? If it was just her and bunch of neoliberals on the ballot, I'd vote for her, but when you have Bernie Sanders, a real deal social justice warrior of unquestionable principle and the lifelong resume to prove, she can

During the civil right movement, she was a Republican...the labor movement, socialist movement, even shyt like feminism and LGBTQ rights which she is happy to embrace now, she was never there. She was talking about how to make markets more efficient. She's happy to be a fake minority professor at Harvard, but she was never involved with any American Indian affairs and tribal leaders said they never knew her. Glad I never bought into this bullshyt narrative about her being a progressive warrior. "I'm just a player in the game" was the most revealing thing she said this whole election cycle.

The other day I went to pick up my daughter from her mother's parents house and parked on the public sidewalk with about 10% of the length of my car in front of their neighbor's house for literally seconds before this white lady came out of her house jogging and stopped in the street and just stared into my car. I guess she felt entitled that I had to roll my window down and address her. I rolled my window down and before I could say anything thankfully my daughter's grandfather came out the house and politely told her I'm her I'm here for them. Then her whole facial expression changed and she got nice and said to me "Oh ok! I thought you were just parked in front of my house" then started laughing and smiling and trying to say something else. I just rolled the window up and didn't say anything. That's who Elizabeth Warren is to me. Can't believe you nikkas are stanning a white soccer mom with vapid woke zingers as the peoples champ.

Passive means not active, just like the fukking article you your damn self quoted. She wasn't an active Republican activist or operative out marching in the streets against civil rights or the women's liberation movement or any of the other political issues you're talking about. In fact, your article limits her "conservatism" to economics and belief in free markets while you're trying to turn her into a mix of Phyllis Schlafly and George Wallace . Just as there's no evidence that Warren was a radical left socialist, there's no evidence she was a radical right-wing fascist.

And here's a little history lesson for you, during this point in time ideological conviction wasn't strictly defined by party affiliation. Watch this neat little trick I can pull off. Elizabeth Warren was in the opposite party of George Wallace and Strom Thurmond ! But let's bring it local. During this period in question, Oklahoma elected its first Republican Governor...who praised the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and pledged to do everything in his power to implement it ! Trying to hang someone with Republican affiliation pre-Southern Strategy is some rookie shyt, try again.

That "bullshyt narrative about her being a progressive warrior" is based on the actual actions she took when she was in positions power. She came to national prominence writing in favor of progressive financial policies. During the biggest domestic crisis of our lifetimes, she was on the front lines fighting the progressive fight. Relative to Warren, Bernie wasn't really doing shyt. During the Obama administration's slide into disappointment, it was Warren, not Bernie, who was on the front lines of the progressive fight. She wasn't satisfied taking stunt votes or being the loneliest socialist in congress, she made a beeline to where the fight was. You can support whoever you want based on things they did in the past, I'll support the person I think will do the best for the future. It's her time. Now go spin on that.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I hear you, but it seems he is in good shape

How the fukk is bloomberg at 9

 

[88m3]

How the fukk is bloomberg at 9

hell of a question

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

hell of a question

Like at least steyer (i know lazy comparison) has the climate change background and seems to have decent intentions

Who is a bloomberg voter?

People who like biden but think hes too old doesnt make sense cuz bloomberg is also old. People who like biden but think hes losing it but also like billionaires? So like a 'more with it' biden with a bigger war chest?

Its befuddling