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My claim isn't that Warren is a deeper or more fervent leftist than Bernie Sanders, it's that she is a trustworthy progressive who has a track record that gives me more faith in her abilities to execute on the progressive agenda than anyone else running. I wouldn't vote for Noam Chomsky over Bernie Sanders because the depth of one's ideological convictions is not the sole, or even overwhelming, trait I'm looking for when analyzing who should be the President of the United States.


The President's role also encompasses more than flying around the country giving stump speeches. You're pretty much making the case for Bernie being a celebrity or activist. I honestly think he would make a fantastic Vice-President. Let him go and do his thing holding rallies around the country and let Liz do the actual work of the Executive Office that is the Presidency.
Hillary should have named Bernie VP in 2016. :troll:
 

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shyt would have been a WRAP :wow:

But that would have been some Odd Couples shyt with the hijinks that would have ensued in the White House between those two :pachaha:
If we lived in another timeline it would have been interesting.
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Like at least steyer (i know lazy comparison) has the climate change background and seems to have decent intentions

Who is a bloomberg voter?

People who like biden but think hes too old doesnt make sense cuz bloomberg is also old. People who like biden but think hes losing it but also like billionaires? So like a 'more with it' biden with a bigger war chest?

Its befuddling
Very low information voters. TV ads move them.
 

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No idea breh

Yang got 5% or more in Reuter’s/Ispos multiple times

Well if its only online like @Pressure said then that could explain both. Why its removed and also why yang does well there. I have a sneaking suspicion they keep same rules from jan to feb then increase them

Very low information voters. TV ads move them.

Probably name ID too. Steyer is all over the airwaves but bloomberg smoked him in that poll
 

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My claim isn't that Warren is a deeper or more fervent leftist than Bernie Sanders, it's that she is a trustworthy progressive who has a track record that gives me more faith in her abilities to execute on the progressive agenda than anyone else running. I wouldn't vote for Noam Chomsky over Bernie Sanders because the depth of one's ideological convictions is not the sole, or even overwhelming, trait I'm looking for when analyzing who should be the President of the United States.

The full depth of Liz’ progressivism is her government work on financial corruption over the past decade and some scholarly legal work for consumer protection and bankruptcy a few years prior.

She also was a Republican who probably sided with big business for most of her life. She has no history in progressive or leftist social movements. She seems to have little intellectual curiosity or passionate feelings on foreign policy at all.

You’re talking about strength of ideological convictions. I don’t see much in the way of ideological convictions other than outrage over crooked bankers (As important as this economy being rigged for the rich is, that’s honestly low-hanging fruit POLITICALLY, post-2008. Everybody hates bankers).

There isn’t really a case that to made that she’s even close to as trustworthy a progressive as Bernie. If the case is she’s a more skilled at crafting legislation than Bernie, then she should stay in the Senate. The president doesn’t have to be master legislator, just try and set the agenda from the top and sign or not sign whatever comes through Congress and staff agencies with the best people to do the grind work...and foreign policy.

The President's role also encompasses more than flying around the country giving stump speeches. You're pretty much making the case for Bernie being a celebrity or activist. I honestly think he would make a fantastic Vice-President. Let him go and do his thing holding rallies around the country and let Liz do the actual work of the Executive Office that is the Presidency.
What actual work? All this shyt about her being a master legislator or whatever is moot because of congressional Republicans and it’s been that way since 2010.

I’m not sold on Bernie’s strategy of taking the fight to other Repubs districts and rally for healthcare, education, wages, etc., but it’s a lot better move than hope Mitch McConnell changes. Liz isn’t going to be able to get shyt past the Senate. Bernie probably won’t get much either but he’s better because he has a powerful grassroots movement which he won’t dismantle once he gets in office like Obama, and he inspires and activates voters to put a fire under these legislators asses and threaten them with consequences for not working in the interest of the people. Liz doesn’t have the weight to do that cause real people see through her.

The place a president has the most effect is foreign policy, and there is no case to be made that Liz is better than Bernie on that.
 
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