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How do you account for the PUMAs if Bernie was the nominee in 2016? :patrice:

You also seem to have more faith than me that cac America won't be substantially affected by attack ads linking Bernie to Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc..."Bolshevik Bernie" is going to inevitably be Trump's nickname for him.

I think Trump's internals are showing him losing handily to Biden which is why he has his minions going around the world risking indictment/impeachment to gather up dirt on him.
Mind you. Hillary reaches out more to black voters than Bernie did.
 

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It's too early to take polls too seriously IMO. Once the primaries are over, FOX News and right-wing media are going to go all in on Trump's opponent.

So whether it's Sanders, Biden, or Warren, most likely Trump is going to gain some ground in the polls (this happens with most incumbents). It's not that Trump is going to get any more popular, it's that the right is going to do their best to drag his opponent down to Hillary levels of unpopularity.
Trump also has an untapped well of voters - 23M non-college educated white men did not vote in 2016. His campaign are trying to connect with these people to get them registered for 2020.
 
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im watching that "divided america" on frank luntz that @Dave24 posted the other day

you know which ticket would absolutely DESTROY trump?

joe biden and oprah winfrey :ohhh:can you fukking imagine the turnout that that ticket would accomplish?
 

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you know why hillary really got 66 million votes? not because anyone really liked her or believed in her, but because of who her opponent was

hillary clinton is a fukking loser. she was a fukking loser in 2008, when she actually had to run against competition. so in 2016, she made sure she had no competition. and she fukkin lost in the real election. that's all she'll ever be remembered for besides not sucking her husband's dikk enough

it's disgusting watching her being brought up at all. she should be an afterthought
Can you show me on the teddy bear where Hillary Clinton touched you inappropriately?

Gottdamn...:picard:
 

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Let AOC/Bernie stand on their own without the help of moderates.

let’s see how much the rest of America cares about her. shyts mad annoying, some of y’all live in a fantasy land.

I’m perfectly fine with y’all going off and doing your own thing. Bye, bye :ehh: dig your own grave. We’ll pay for your shovels

Let Biden try to beat Trump without the help of progressives. Hillary couldn't even do it with them in 2016.
Biden Boyz aint about that life. Keep advocating that "cut off your nose to spite your face" style rhetoric though.
 
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Trump also has an untapped well of voters...23M non-college educated white men did not vote in 2016. His campaign are trying to connect with these people to get them registered for 2020.
no, bernie will win them all. they will jump at the green new deal which assures coal and natural gas industries aren't coming back and shows how tighter emissions standards will basically choke out any chance of manufacturing returning. bernie's populism will make a lot more sense to them than trump's populism :mjgrin:
 

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Let Biden try to beat Trump without the help of progressives. Hillary couldn't even do it with them in 2016.
Biden Boyz aint about that life. Keep advocating that cut of your nose to spite your fact" style rhetoric though.

Biden fans are pragmatic. They don’t talk like that. It’s progressives with the “Bernie or Bust”, “Warren or no one” messaging.

y’all act like that, we don’t. But if we wanted to reciprocate that same line of thinking, progressives need moderates more than we need progressives. That’s just a simple fact :yeshrug:

All the hoopla around any national progressive candidate is dead once we move into a parliamentary system. They have no chance.


And I’m ready for it, let’s get this shyt over with. Split from the party please!

Dealing with these bullshyt progressive candidates is mad annoying.
 
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I'm totally lost. What does this have anything to do with anything? Did the Clinton surrogate claim I was uneducated or something?

I think the gist of it was that Bernie supporters are said to demonize educated people and consider them elitists, despite being educated themselves. :yeshrug:

Wasn't an accusation I made :hubie: just what I got reading thru the thread
 
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