2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[nyknick]

Biden fans are pragmatic. They don’t talk like that. It’s progressives with the “Bernie or Bust”, “Warren or no one” messaging.

y’all act like that, we don’t. But if we wanted to reciprocate that same line of thinking, progressives need moderates more than we need progressives. That’s just a simple fact

Yeah, the only issue with that is that it's not a fact.

Previous elections show that that line of thinking is bullshyt. Just because Biden and his supporters are moderate and 'pragmatic' in their policies does not make them moderate in their support.

Moderate voters have proven themselves to be bigger zealots than the progressives. We've posted thousands of times Hillary's voters turnout for Obama (when he was the progressive/change candidate) compared with Bernie's voters tunrout for Hillary.

So you continue stating that progressives are radical and won't support anyone but Bernie if that makes you feel better about yourself as a moderate, but it's false.

Moderate queen herself just stated that she won't vote for Bernie if he's the candidate ... today. And you got the nerve to call out progressives for not supporting others

 

[the cac mamba]

Aren’t cacs pretending to hate Oprah these days?

who hates oprah maybe the MAGA base

can you imagine the fukking enormity of oprah running as biden's VP the news story and buzz alone, her obvious ability to campaign, shyt even the money it would bring in

trump would be shytting his fukkin pants and oprah doesn't even have a record to attack politically. just pure, unadulterated star power

 

[SunZoo]

If the Dem party is really telling the truth about picking anyone other than Trump, they should vote for Bernie no questions asked.

"They" are completely full of shyt, which is why we got Trump in the first place. They, at least the ones in office would GLADLY let Trump get reelected than have to part with one fukking dollar, which is exactly why they are being boxed out on the behalf of the people, because they prove time and time again that they don't give a motherfukk.

They build Trump up as Darth Vader because they have nothing to offer besides at least we aren't THAT bad. And then you wonder why some normal people on the ground who helped Obama get elected are disillusioned with the whole process and would rather sit home or even get behind the retarded wrecking ball to at least be entertained while nothing for them really fundamentally changes from Bush to Clinton to Baby Bush to Obama and so on.

They want us to fight for their political capitol with only the promise of maintaining order in return. fukk THAT, fukk ANYBODY TRYING TO 'MODERATE' JUSTICE AND LIBERTY.

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action - MLK

 

[the next guy]

trump supporters are also poor white people easily influenced by god, guns and racism...and dems have plenty of rich supporters as well. yall gotta stop seeing the world in terms of rich/poor without taking into account individual's beliefs/actions
individuals aren't the enemy, the system we enable to exploit folks and keep wealth concentrated is. if we could magically wave a wand and have a perfect economic system, i wouldn't give a shyt about millionaires and billionaires existing. yall have misplaced anger and tend to assert things about people once they start making over x-dollars, that's as dumb as the idea that everyone struggling is on the same team. "just cuz we the same color don't make you my brother"

But that's the problem. The majority of poor in the country voted for Hillary. We focus on the Larry the cable guy types but reality is that's only good for dunking on people. Dems need to start talking about tearing down the current power structure so that something like Trump doesn't happen again. The majority of wall street backed this guy. the majority of ceos worked with him. We need to start calling everyone out, not just the jokers at the gun rally.

 

[the cac mamba]

triggered bernie bros

shouldnt hillary be "GETTING IN LINE" and saying she's blue no matter who? how does it make you feel that hillary would probably vote for trump if it came to a trump/bernie election?

a true leader would lead by example. she couldnt even set an example for monica lewinsky

 

[Warren Moon]

Yeah, the only issue with that is that it's not a fact.

Previous elections show that that line of thinking is bullshyt. Just because Biden and his supporters are moderate and 'pragmatic' in their policies does not make them moderate in their support.

Moderate voters have proven themselves to be bigger zealots than the progressives. We've posted thousands of times Hillary's voters turnout for Obama (when he was the progressive/change candidate) compared with Bernie's voters tunrout for Hillary.

So you continue stating that progressives are radical and won't support anyone but Bernie if that makes you feel better about yourself as a moderate, but it's false.

Moderate queen herself just stated that she won't vote for Bernie if he's the candidate ... today. And you got the nerve to call out progressives for not supporting others

yeah progressives have a shot only in a two party system, that’s here in America. Simple as that.

Parliamentary systems typically have two leading candidates for prime minister/president. Center Right and Center left, occasionally someone will win from the extreme right or left.

Hilary never said she wouldn’t vote for Bernie u just made that up.

you’re entire post just proved my point. Moderates will vote for progressives if they win the democratic ticket no matter what. Progressives won’t do the same for moderates.

I’d much rather have a parliamentary system. Progressives branch out have their own party, run their own ppl and when they inevitably lose, they’ll be forced to support the democrat moderates.

I’ll take that right now, please. Y’all need a quick and swift reality check on how much power u think u actually have.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Oh hillary

 

[No1]

trump supporters are also poor white people easily influenced by god, guns and racism...and dems have plenty of rich supporters as well. yall gotta stop seeing the world in terms of rich/poor without taking into account individual's beliefs/actions
individuals aren't the enemy, the system we enable to exploit folks and keep wealth concentrated is. if we could magically wave a wand and have a perfect economic system, i wouldn't give a shyt about millionaires and billionaires existing. yall have misplaced anger and tend to assert things about people once they start making over x-dollars, that's as dumb as the idea that everyone struggling is on the same team. "just cuz we the same color don't make you my brother"

Industries are made up of individuals. Let’s stop talking about bank CEOs like they’re the teller at the bank. Who do you think the corrupt system benefits? Who is using their money to create it?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Biden/Hillary ticket

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

If the Dem party is really telling the truth about picking anyone other than Trump, they should vote for Bernie no questions asked. The fact that their MAY be some more affluent Dems that may vote for Trump proves why a candidate's support system coming primarily from millionaires and billionaires matters. Many of them will woke signal for symbolic progress but when it comes to making sacrifices for the material needs of others, their righteous sensibilities become dormant.

i don't subscribe to this one way to view economic policy. a lot of economic and social views are under the democratic umbrella, which is a flaw of a two party system.

lastly, as i said, one side will need to compromise. are bernie supporters willing to support biden or is this a case of my way or the highway?

 

[CBSkyline]

Steyer ain't playing games out here. He stay taking jabs at wine cave Pete even while speaking on reparations

 

[duncanthetall]

i don't subscribe to this one way to view economic policy. a lot of economic and social views are under the democratic umbrella, which is a flaw of a two party system.

lastly, as i said, one side will need to compromise. are bernie supporters willing to support biden or is this a case of my way or the highway?

....bro if we supported Hillary I think we’re gonna support Biden. Stop this laziness.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Industries are made up of individuals. Let’s stop talking about bank CEOs like they’re the teller at the bank. Who do you think the corrupt system benefits? Who is using their money to create it?

corporate behavior is much bigger than the CEO. if we didn't have sets of structures in place to allow corporations to run roughshod over the government/"law", then we'd have behavioral checks at the institutional, and thus individual, level.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

But that's the problem. The majority of poor in the country voted for Hillary. We focus on the Larry the cable guy types but reality is that's only good for dunking on people. Dems need to start talking about tearing down the current power structure so that something like Trump doesn't happen again. The majority of wall street backed this guy. the majority of ceos worked with him. We need to start calling everyone out, not just the jokers at the gun rally.

rural america, where most poor white people live, voted trump.

and the dem party is not that, so maybe it's time to start a party that is that...

 

[duncanthetall]

Steyer ain't playing games out here. He stay taking jabs at wine cave Pete even while speaking on reparations

Damn Steyer going for the Hail Mary