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What yall think about this Rogan endorsement? Some on the left are trying to get Bernie to rescind it.
not a fan of amplifying someone's endorsement with that history of vileness. People seeing Bernie's Twitter dont need to be swayed by joe Rogan anyway..

But also it is hilarious that Bari Weiss is now in a Bernie ad after all but calling him anti-semitic
 
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What yall think about this Rogan endorsement? Some on the left are trying to get Bernie to rescind it.

Biden, Buttigieg, Warren all wanted to go on Rogan’s podcast after they saw how Yang, Bernie and to a certain extent Tulsi got boosts. Rogan denied their requests to be on his show.

I’m sure some of these people wouldn’t have minded him endorsing their candidate even with his history of saying stupid shid.
 

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Bernie will attract these type of white voters that we're going to need to defeat Trump:manny:

I remember some old white dude who voted for Obama, then Trump in 2016 telling me he would have voted for Bernie. Bernie can get those white Obama/Trump voters.
They scared. Warren And Biden And booty wanted to do Rogan’s show and he declined
 

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Biden, Buttigieg, Warren all wanted to go on Rogan’s podcast after they saw how Yang, Bernie and to a certain extent Tulsi got boosts. Rogan denied their requests to be on his show.

I’m sure some of these people wouldn’t have minded him endorsing their candidate even with his history of saying stupid shid.
going on his show is fine

Retweeting the endorsement :hhh:

Bernie isnt online and obviously has no idea about Rogan's hostory, but someone in the campaign should have stepped in
 

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I know

And Obama sided with the banks.
But Banks were allowed to fail, just not all of them.

And ultimately that's to the benefit of society as a whole unless you were banking on complete anarchy.

Imagine the loss of the bond market. :hubie:

That said there was also HASP for homeowners and the foreclosure protection Act.

Millions of Americans lost there homes, but millions of Americans were also saw foreclosures.

Is your proposal that the government purchase homes that were upside down then expect people who had lost their homes because they couldn't afford to pay their mortgage to pay their mortgage? :comeon:

None of that would have been possible if the banks all failed. :dwillhuh:
 

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But Banks were allowed to fail, just not all of them.

And ultimately that's to the benefit of society as a whole unless you were banking on complete anarchy.

Imagine the loss of the bond market. :hubie:

That said there was also HASP for homeowners and the foreclosure protection Act.

Millions of Americans lost there homes, but millions of Americans were also saw foreclosures.

Is your proposal that the government purchase homes that were upside down then expect people who had lost their homes because they couldn't afford to pay their mortgage to pay their mortgage? :comeon:

None of that would have been possible if the banks all failed. :dwillhuh:
You do this a lot. You move the goalpost to a discussion to get a “gotcha” even though no one said this. Yesterday you made it seem like someone said their lives were worse now than entering the workforce in 2006-7, when that was never the discussion.

I am not a policy person but letting those banks thrive and cake while people lost their homes and wealth isn’t right. Maybe instead of letting the banks get money and flex, maybe regulate that money and force them to fix the injustices they caused? I’m sure someone else probably has a better policy paper on this, but Obama’s :hubie: policy towards those that got fukked over didn’t help.
 

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You do this a lot. You move the goalpost to a discussion to get a “gotcha” even though no one said this. Yesterday you made it seem like someone said their lives were worse now than entering the workforce in 2006-7, when that was never the discussion.

I am not a policy person but letting those banks thrive and cake while people lost their homes and wealth isn’t right. Maybe instead of letting the banks get money and flex, maybe regulate that money and force them to fix the injustices they caused? I’m sure someone else probably has a better policy paper on this, but Obama’s :hubie: policy towards those that got fukked over didn’t help.
The discussion is naturally moving where you all took it and im just responding with the facts.

The initial point that the majority of Americans lives were better when Obama left office than when he took it still remains. As a result his popularity remains high among most Americans.

I then said a lot of the critique seems to be based on framing Obama as something he never was policywise to call his presidency a failure.

You then went on to say that people lost homes and the banks were bailed out.

I'm merely pointing out that banks were bailed out, some failed, people were bailed out, some lost their homes, but the idea that the government was going to save all homeowners during a recession without first saving the banks and the bond market just isn't possible.

Where was the money going to come from? :francis:

That's not moving the goalposts.
 

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going on his show is fine

Retweeting the endorsement :hhh:

Bernie isnt online and obviously has no idea about Rogan's hostory, but someone in the campaign should have stepped in

Sure, I get it. Joe Rogan has always been a very reactionary figure. But let’s be reality, he ain’t the only one.

But if I’m the campaign and I’m trying to expand the electorate in the primary, I’m using this.

I’d venture to say Joe Rogan endorsing Bernie is more impactful than the NYT endorsement.
 

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Sure, I get it. Joe Rogan has always been a very reactionary figure. But let’s be reality, he ain’t the only one.

But if I’m the campaign and I’m trying to expand the electorate in the primary, I’m using this.

I’d venture to say Joe Rogan endorsing Bernie is more impactful than the NYT endorsement.
Are you suggesting the free thinking crowd isn't free thinking. :mjgrin:
 

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The discussion is naturally moving where you all took it and im just responding with the facts.

The initial point that the majority of Americans lives were better when Obama left office than when it took it still remains. As a result his popularity remains high among most Americans.

I then said a lot of the critique seems to be based on framing Obama as something he never was policywise to call his presidency a failure.

You then went on to say that people lost homes and the banks were bailed out.

I'm merely pointing out that banks were bailed out, some failed, people were bailed out, some lost their homes, but the idea that the government was going to save all homeowners during a recession without first saving the banks and the bond market just isn't possible.

Where was the money going to come from?
:francis:

That's not moving the goalposts.

:laff:

Where did the money come from for the $700 billion bailout? Where did the money come from the quantitative easing in the years that followed that helped inflate the stock market, banks, and real estate?

Writing down mortgages was well within the power of the federal government when they nationalized Fannie and Freddie. The bailouts could have been tailored on the banks as well to help the home owners more than the FHA programs that Obama started which put people on trial payments to adjust these adjustable rate mortgages. My parents were in one of those programs for 3 years but then they got rejected from a legit loan modification which forced them to short sale the house (my first real estate adventure... stressful AF).

There was a lot more the government could have done. Even before Obama came into office, the Bush administration was talking about writing down mortgages.

A lot of suffering in the wake of the crisis didn't need to happen.
 

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Where did the money come from for the $700 billion bailout? Where did the money come from the quantitative easing in the years that followed that helped inflate the stock market, banks, and real estate?
Most of this comes from loans that are a part of the bond market which maintains our credit rating.

:dwillhuh:

The 700bn were loans that were paid back.
 

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Writing down mortgages was well within the power of the federal government when they nationalized Fannie and Freddie. The bailouts could have been tailored on the banks as well to help the home owners more than the FHA programs that Obama started which put people on trial payments to adjust these adjustable rate mortgages. My parents were in one of those programs for 3 years but then they got rejected from a legit loan modification which forced them to short sale the house (my first real estate adventure... stressful AF).

How so? The laws didn't allow for Principal forgiveness back then?

Are you suggesting some type of forbearance?
 

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It's almost like some of yall wanted the federal government to take the same approach as it does on student loans with your mortgages.

@DEAD7 :francis:
 

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Rhule probably downed a bottle of $300 wine immediately following this segment. :wow:


Something about Stephanie Ruhle makes me think she’s a FREAK in the sheets.

She’s not even attractive, but she seems like one of those chicks that gets animalistic in the sack.
 
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