2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Uno Venova]

Warren's multi-layered plan is a grown up approach to reshaping 1/5th of our economy. Her strategy embraces incremental changes - expanding Obamacare, creating a PO, expanding Medicare immediately. She's also attacking the death grip the healthcare industry has on Congress through her anti-corruption bill. She's creating the foundation so that eventually after a few years single-payer could become feasible. Her approach has a much better chance of being successful than Bernie's one bill pipe dream.

I can play the same pessimist game and say the same senate & leader McConnell that doesn’t even fukk with Obamacare won’t let ANY improvements or saving of the bill happen. So I guess it’s fukk her plan too You’re opinion of which one can pass or not meaningless.

 

[CBSkyline]

The only Nevada poll that matters

 

[King Kreole]

@FAH1223 Bismillah Biden

 

[King Kreole]

I can play the same pessimist game and say the same senate & leader McConnell that doesn’t even fukk with Obamacare won’t let ANY improvements or saving of the bill happen. So I guess it’s fukk her plan too You’re opinion of which one can pass or not meaningless.

You actually can't play that same game, because Warren's plan was designed with Republican intransigence in mind. She goes all-in on executive actions and reconciliation eligible moves.

In 2017, Senate Republicans came within one vote of shredding the Affordable Care Act and taking health care coverage away from more than 20 million people. How did they get so close? By using a fast-track legislative process called budget reconciliation, which only requires 50 votes in the Senate to pass laws with major budgetary impacts. President Obama also used this process to secure final passage of the Affordable Care Act.

I am a strong supporter of eliminating the filibuster, which I believe is essential to preventing right-wing Senators who function as wholly owned subsidiaries of major American industries from blocking real legislative change in America. Any candidate for president who does not support this change should acknowledge the extreme difficulty of enacting their preferred legislative agenda. But I’m not going to wait for this to happen to start improving health care – and I'm not going to give Mitch McConnell or the Republicans a veto over my entire health care agenda.

That’s why, within my first 100 days, I will pass my own fast-track budget reconciliation legislation to enact a substantial portion of my Medicare for All agenda – including establishing a true Medicare for All option that’s free for millions and affordable for everyone.

 

[A Cop]

Lying....

Dog faced......

..........

Pony soldier?

 

[dtownreppin214]

He won Iowa. At least the popular vote. Though somehow Pete won the delegates.

Plus, Pete's Shadow was all over that thing.

I'm talking about the raw numbers. For someone promising a revolution, his turnout numbers weren't that impressive. Especially considering he's been running for 5 years, and he had an absurd burn rate in Iowa.

 

[dtownreppin214]

I can play the same pessimist game and say the same senate & leader McConnell that doesn’t even fukk with Obamacare won’t let ANY improvements or saving of the bill happen. So I guess it’s fukk her plan too You’re opinion of which one can pass or not meaningless.

She can at least get her own party on board, and that matters if the Dems some how get out of their own way and win the Senate. Even with the Senate, Bernie ain't getting his bill through. And he damn sure isn't getting it through with his waffling on the filibuster.

 

[Cognito]

Saagar eenjiti is a piece of shyt lol

 

[Uno Venova]

You actually can't play that same game, because Warren's plan was designed with Republican intransigence in mind. She goes all-in on executive actions and reconciliation eligible moves.

So she’s not going to get republicans and other colleagues on her side either...

She can at least get her own party on board, and that matters if the Dems some how get out of their own way and win the Senate. Even with the Senate, Bernie ain't getting his bill through. And he damn sure isn't getting it through with his waffling on the filibuster.

The only verifiable fact here is Bernie as a politician & his plans is vastly more popular than hers. What you think she can do with her colleagues is your own thoughts.

 

[King Kreole]

So she’s not going to get republicans and other colleagues on her side either...

Reconciliation eligible moves means 50 votes in Congress. She's not assuming she can flip Republican Senators and primary Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Pressure]

One advantage of Elizabeth Warren’s employer health fee plan: It polls well

 

[A.R.$]

Why in sam hell do you think we could get only 15 senators to sign on to medicare for all lmao Medicare for all is a wildly popular policy and is BIPARTISAN. Bernie made AMAZON raise their fukking minimum wage for their workers and he wasn't even president. Again, why do you all keep underestimating the power of Sanders and his movement? Why do we keep acting like he is ineffectual? We have to try, what is the other choice? Keep on with this shyt ass healthcare system that we currently have?

Breh,
I support M4A as well. I work in healthcare, and our system is trash. But the reality is there is not going to be enough votes in Congress to pass M4A. At best we will have to wait to get more progressives in the house and senate after the 2022 elections in 2023. And that probably won’t happen, because major legislation like that usually don’t get pass that close to a presidential election. On top of that the party in power usually takes a L during the midterm elections. Plus Bernie will be in his 80s and most likely won’t run for re-election.

The most likely scenario is that Bernie will negotiate the best bill possible. He will pass a healthcare bill that will include a strong public option. When this happens I hope the Bernie bros don’t turn on him. Some Bernie supporters have unrealistic expectations. We probably won’t be able to get true M4A until at least after the 2024 elections.

 

[Kenny West]

I'm talking about the raw numbers. For someone promising a revolution, his turnout numbers weren't that impressive. Especially considering he's been running for 5 years, and he had an absurd burn rate in Iowa.

Sanders Surged in Iowa on a Wave of New Voters

He won Iowa off of new voter turnout, something talking heads said was impossible. Mind you he's still splittling a piece of his vote with warren.

Im not worried

 

[SunZoo]

Sanders Surged in Iowa on a Wave of New Voters

He won Iowa off of new voter turnout, something talking heads said was impossible. Mind you his still splittling a piece of his vote with warren.

Im not worried

+ Not being able to campaign properly due to the impeachment trial, which one could reasonable say had an influence on overall turn out.