2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Uno Venova]

What do you call getting you inbox and social media filled with messages that you are corrupt, and get hundreds of calls a day of people calling you and telling you the same?

Getting calls because you're involved in politics.

 

[duncanthetall]

The absolute audacity of these crackers

 

[OfTheCross]

You're complaining about people complaining about being the victims of harassment because you think they're making the wrong decision on who to endorse.

Now you're complaining about people people saying attacking labor unions is a bad look for alleged champions of labor.


Let that sink in.

When did I complain?

 

[King Kreole]

@King Kreole
You wrongly inferred that I said she was riding high in the polls. She started slipping after M4A, she tanked when she chose the wrong flank to defend. Distancing herself from Bernie would include her inability to acknowledge that a reasonable funding mechanism fro M4A has to include a tax increase.

We agree that M4A was the beginning of the decline, but I don't see how she defended the right flank instead of the left. She never spoke down on M4A or use the right flank lines of attack about affordability. She increased her support for M4A by coming out with her own plans for it and attempted to show its viability. Her choosing to do M4A without increasing taxes on the middle class was a 100% fair distinction to draw from Bernie. Criticizing it as "distancing herself from Bernie" is weird and why we're saying Bernie people are upset she actually wants to be President and not just running to be Bernie's VP. In another life we're having the discussion about which approach is better, but instead we're having the discussion of whether Liz the snake betrayed Saint Bernard by having the audacity to have a different path to reach the same progressive goal.

 

[King Kreole]

I completely agree with that. But the addition I'd add is they see an opportunity to look more friendly to the union and try and garner some support.

Yeah this is an absolute layup for any campaign besides Bernie's.

 

[duncanthetall]

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Warren is a two-faced, flip-flopping, lying snake....why would y'all want her on the team?

Same goes for the corporate establishment whores that make up 90% of the field...why would y'all want any of their endorsements or have them in anyway affiliated with the pure, innocent, benevolent Bernie campaign?

bernie doesn't need any other voters or political allies, just his coalition, "working class" trump voters, AOC and Nina Turner

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

Because the union endorsed another candidate?

Here is what I am gathering. If I am wrong on any of this, please correct me.

Gladly. They're criticizing the union for lying about M4A taking away their healthcare and weakening the strength of the union by diminishing the bargaining power of their workers.

8 other unions endorsed Warren. You've never seen anyone here criticize those unions, because there is, in fact, no conspiracy to harass every union that doesn't endorse Sanders. They are being criticized for espousing anti-union rhetoric and promoting anti-union policy.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Can someone make the Nevada Caucus thread please?

 

[King Kreole]

There she goes, attacking progressives again

 

[jj23]

Gladly. They're criticizing the union for lying about M4A taking away their healthcare and weakening the strength of the union by diminishing the bargaining power of their workers.

8 other unions endorsed Warren. You've never seen anyone here criticize those unions, because there is, in fact, no conspiracy to harass every union that doesn't endorse Sanders. They are beign criticized for espousing anti-union rhetoric and promoting anti-union policy.

So basically they said that M4A would cause them to lose the current healthcare they have?

I assume that's the lie?

 

[Uno Venova]

So basically they said that M4A would cause them to lose the current healthcare they have?

I assume that's the lie?

 

[Miles Davis]

i'm not on board with it for more than costs. the few government services i have had to use - DMV, unemployment - were a headache and can become admin nightmares, in addition to being slow, and having bad service, i don't know if i trust the government to run a responsive high quality healthcare system. then comes women's reproductive rights and family planning issues, i'm lucky to have an insurance plan that pays toward things like that, i feel those areas will lag with a govt plan. i also don't trust how this plays out as parties come into and out of power. do republicans slash budgets and gut coverage any time they're in then dems swing it back another way? just like public schools or public banks aren't the only option for those important institutions, i don't think public health should be the only option.

i'm no policy expert so i don't know how costs work with a mixed system, but i'd much rather have politicians campaigning transparently on and trying to solve how to create a real public option.

i know he doesn't need congress, but he needs the courage to. a lot of people are not supportive of loan forgiveness and i can see that being a concession or tradeoff made to get people on board with something "more important"

I hear you on this, I’m for M4A. When I’ve seen people in countries with universal healthcare speak on it always sounds like it go worst when private healthcare came into the picture as those companies needed to justify their services so somehow the public option took a hit. And with the power and lobbying of companies and industries in the US I’d definitely worry about a public option when the private option is available and we know how evil and greedy they are. We’re honestly between a rock and a hard place, I’d take M4A for the simple fact that everyone will be covered.

 

[JBoy]

to those more knowledgeable about NYC politics, how the hell did Bloomberg end up mayor in the first place?

 

[jj23]

I d9nt know enough about Bernie's M4A to comment, so I am trusting you to tell me the truth. Would the culinary worker insurance be affected negatively by M4A?