2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[AndroidHero]

I believe in anyone but Trump, but know it's any one but Trump and Bloomberg.

 

[A.R.$]

I believe in anyone but Trump, but know it's any one but Trump and Bloomberg.

Pete is on that list for me along with Trump and Bloomberg

 

[Pressure]

This is not a Black and White issue. We are stuck in a two party system. Hillary was going to beat Bernie in 2016 regardless, because Bernie didn’t do a good job in reaching out to Black voters. But let’s not act like the DNC was/is a neutral actor in all of this. I dislike the way a lot of his supporters act but I understand why they hate the DNC/establishment Democrats.

A lot of them need to grow up.

 

[Conan]

@wire28 come on breh. If Bernie would of ran third party people would fry him like they did Nader and Jill Stein. You should want him to run as a Democrat and not an independent. Same thing with Bloomberg. I hate that piece of shyt and I will not vote for him if he wins the nomination. However, I would rather see Bloomberg run in the Democratic primary than be a spoiler and run as a independent.

Also the system is not design for an independent to win. An independent might not even be able to get on the ballet in all 50 states. They make it extremely hard for for an independent candidate to get on the debate stage. The only thing an independent can do is play spoiler or be a protest vote.

I'd honestly rather see Bloomberg run as a Republican

 

[No1]

Cosign 100 percent. Bernie is nowhere near as radical as people make him out to be. In some areas he is actually way too conservative for my liking. I would add reparations to your list as well. He also has failed to adapt UBI or baby bonds to his platform. He is stuck on this federal job guarantee which will do little to solve the underlining problems. I don't know why he want to keep the filibuster. It is a terrible strategy.

None of these things makes him conservative. It just means that he doesn't believe in your solutions.

 

[mastermind]

Bernie taking the gloves off now

Bernard

 

[A.R.$]

None of these things makes him conservative. It just means that he doesn't believe in your solutions.

I didn’t call him a conservative. I said on those issues he is too conservative for my liking. Meaning I’m much farther left than him on those specific issues.

 

[wire28]

@wire28 come on breh. If Bernie would of ran third party people would fry him like they did Nader and Jill Stein. You should want him to run as a Democrat and not an independent. Same thing with Bloomberg. I hate that piece of shyt and I will not vote for him if he wins the nomination. However, I would rather see Bloomberg run in the Democratic primary than be a spoiler and run as a independent.

Also the system is not design for an independent to win. An independent might not even be able to get on the ballet in all 50 states. They make it extremely hard for for an independent candidate to get on the debate stage. The only thing an independent can do is play spoiler or be a protest vote.

not really again his political platform doesn’t change. Who is “people”? The media that is already allegedly frying him/covering him inadequately? The voters wouldn’t “fry” him if they agreed with his ideology.

Hard to buy the revolutionary act from a guy that keeps crawling back to the corrupt war mongering neoliberals every 4 years

if the two party system needs to be dismantled it would seem as though he would be the perfect guy to do it right? But it seems as though he is fine “playing the game” but more importantly his cultists are fine dismissing whatever they need to in order to maintain the illusion of infallibility

 

[Pressure]

But it seems as though he is fine “playing the game” but more importantly his cultists are fine dismissing whatever they need to in order to maintain the illusion of infallibility

 

[Wild self]

except they're not thanks to the electoral college, gerrymandering, and how liberals concentrate in the same dense metro areas

Some,of those Midwestern states always leaned blue, due to workers rights. Dont let 2016 fool you at all......only in the South, is when the GOP (barely) win races.

 

[wire28]

This is not a Black and White issue. We are stuck in a two party system. Hillary was going to beat Bernie in 2016 regardless, because Bernie didn’t do a good job in reaching out to Black voters. But let’s not act like the DNC was/is a neutral actor in all of this. I dislike the way a lot of his supporters act but I understand why they hate the DNC/establishment Democrats.

So they understandably hate the DNC and establishment dems but MUST work with them?
It makes no sense. Why are you going to willingly work with a system that is hellbent on your downfall?

If he has this strong coalition he can do it on his own. Even more so in 2020 than 2016. Can’t have it both ways.

I know why he is doing it. Because he is a politician and they are all the same. I just can’t deal with the bullshyt from his cultists.

 

[goatmane]

 

[Pressure]

No one likes Bernie Bros.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

These "Bernie supporters are meanies" arguments are hilarious.

 

[A.R.$]

not really again his political platform doesn’t change. Who is “people”? The media that is already allegedly frying him/covering him inadequately? The voters wouldn’t “fry” him if they agreed with his ideology.

Hard to buy the revolutionary act from a guy that keeps crawling back to the corrupt war mongering neoliberals every 4 years

if the two party system needs to be dismantled it would seem as though he would be the perfect guy to do it right? But it seems as though he is fine “playing the game” but more importantly his cultists are fine dismissing whatever they need to in order to maintain the illusion of infallibility

Bernie is a politician. He has shown he is willing to play the game to a certain extent. But it is a little unfair to say he came crawling back. First this is only his second time running for president. It not like he runs for president every 4 years.

Second he is popular with the democratic base. He just not popular with the Democratic establishment/elites.

Third there are are people that like Bernie, but will only vote for the Democratic nominee because they don’t want to risk getting Trump re-elected. Why would he run as a independent if he is not trying to be a spoiler?

Fourth I think people are taking the revolution thing too serious. What he mean by revolution is just pushing the party left. Now some of his supporters might mean something different.

I said this before. I like Bernie, but I don’t like a lot of his supporters. But at this point it is what it is. He wasn’t my first choice but he have a better shot at getting the nomination and beating Trump than Warren at this point. I’m now looking at VP candidates that can carry the party in 2024, because if elected I fully expect Bernie to be a stop gap President.