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Omg they did what? *clutches pearls intensely "

What a disgusting group of voters the Warren campaign has. How has she not denounced this? They're acting like liberal trump supporters. :picard: This is a cult.

How does warren expect to build a diverse coalition of voters and win the presidency with supporters who harass other candidates? :troll:

I guess its a good thing her goal is just to waste donor money on taking down sanders


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polls are all over the place
So basically Bernie is getting anywhere from 25%-35% of the caucus vote

He’s got the biggest and strongest organization in Nevada right now. Only other candidate that has a good operation is Warren so I wouldn’t be surprised if she finishes 2nd.

Biden falling is predictable but old voters love him so he should do better than the first two states.
I don't see Bernie getting over 30% just based on last two states and also Nevada being a caucus.

But I do see Biden falling since Pete is taking the rural vote and Amy is taking old women. It remains to be seen if Warren can take advantage of that and take 2nd place.

And there's also a debate coming up which could swing things in any direction :manny:

Best case scenario is Bernie getting over 30% and Warren finishing 2nd but I don't see that happening :francis:
 

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@wire28 come on breh. If Bernie would of ran third party people would fry him like they did Nader and Jill Stein. You should want him to run as a Democrat and not an independent. Same thing with Bloomberg. I hate that piece of shyt and I will not vote for him if he wins the nomination. However, I would rather see Bloomberg run in the Democratic primary than be a spoiler and run as a independent.

Also the system is not design for an independent to win. An independent might not even be able to get on the ballet in all 50 states. They make it extremely hard for for an independent candidate to get on the debate stage. The only thing an independent can do is play spoiler or be a protest vote.
 

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@wire28 come on breh. If Bernie would of ran third party people would fry him like they did Nader and Jill Stein. You should want him to run as a Democrat and not an independent. Same thing with Bloomberg. I hate that piece of shyt and I will not vote for him if he wins the nomination. However, I would rather see Bloomberg run in the Democratic primary than be a spoiler and run as a independent.

Also the system is not design for an independent to win. An independent might not even be able to get on the ballet in all 50 states. They make it extremely hard for for an independent candidate to get on the debate stage. The only thing an independent can do is play spoiler or be a protest vote.
The real hypocrisy to call out Bernie and his "revolution" talk for is his steadfast conservative institutionalist streak. Dude is constantly scared to advocate for the actual structural reforms that are needed to actually fix democracy, like abolishing the filibuster, abolishing the electoral college or packing the courts. He seems to have genuine reverence for the structural, procedural barriers to enacting real change. It's bizarre.
 

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@wire28 come on breh. If Bernie would of ran third party people would fry him like they did Nader and Jill Stein. You should want him to run as a Democrat and not an independent. Same thing with Bloomberg. I hate that piece of shyt and I will not vote for him if he wins the nomination. However, I would rather see Bloomberg run in the Democratic primary than be a spoiler and run as a independent.

Also the system is not design for an independent to win. An independent might not even be able to get on the ballet in all 50 states. They make it extremely hard for for an independent candidate to get on the debate stage. The only thing an independent can do is play spoiler or be a protest vote.
I think the core issue is that Bernie has caucused with dems his entire congressional career and ran for pres as a dem twice. He was involved in the DNC reform process - - actually invited.

So it's strange for his supporters to complain about the DNC rigging it or treaty him unfairly at this stage.

It's strange to wish the Dem party to fail while also acknowledging he can't win without them. :mjlol:
 

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The real hypocrisy to call out Bernie and his "revolution" talk for is his steadfast conservative institutionalist streak. Dude is constantly scared to advocate for the actual structural reforms that are needed to actually fix democracy, like abolishing the filibuster, abolishing the electoral college or packing the courts. He seems to have genuine reverence for the structural, procedural barriers to enacting real change. It's bizarre.
Cosign 100 percent. Bernie is nowhere near as radical as people make him out to be. In some areas he is actually way too conservative for my liking. I would add reparations to your list as well. He also has failed to adapt UBI or baby bonds to his platform. He is stuck on this federal job guarantee which will do little to solve the underlining problems. I don't know why he want to keep the filibuster. It is a terrible strategy.
 

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I think the core issue is that Bernie has caucused with dems his entire congressional career and ran for pres as a dem twice. He was involved in the DNC reform process - - actually invited.

So it's strange for his supporters to complain about the DNC rigging it or treaty him unfairly at this stage.

It's strange to wish the Dem party to fail while also acknowledging he can't win without them. :mjlol:
This is not a Black and White issue. We are stuck in a two party system. Hillary was going to beat Bernie in 2016 regardless, because Bernie didn’t do a good job in reaching out to Black voters. But let’s not act like the DNC was/is a neutral actor in all of this. I dislike the way a lot of his supporters act but I understand why they hate the DNC/establishment Democrats.
 
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