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Iono, breh.

Every other country in the OECD got a bunch of different ways to do this.

We've got enough examples to create a plan for ourselfs.
the USA would have the largest most complex plan in history... and BERNIE would do that???

he doesn't even know what he's talking about 60% of the time
 

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:jbhmm:What I'm gleaning from this discussion is that Bernie supporters want what's best for 99% of people but every other candidates' stans are primarily concerned with what's best for them personally.
We all want what's best

But that's like a super model wanting world peace

People like Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, or Elizabeth Warren actually do the dirty work and diplomacy ... sanders is a fukking vain superficial cheerleader
 

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Because what you get out here in that income bracket is not what you’d get elsewhere. The volume of people making that brings down the value of that income

this is what the almighty $200k income earner gets to look forward to buying

807 47th St, Oakland, CA 94608 - 3 beds/2 baths

or, these, and make some side income (like you're currently doing):

3130 Union St, Oakland, CA 94608 - 3 beds/4 baths

2923 West St, Oakland, CA 94608 - 6 beds/2 baths

imagine having a home that paid for itself :wow:
 

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There are checks and balances though. It's easy to come out and make the promises he's making, but how will he achieve them? And is his "plan" realistic? I'm also bothered by how he skirts any question that relates to what he will do for black people specifically. It's always mixed in with "people of color" and immigrants, etc.

Perhaps I'm wrong and missed something but that is my observation at this point at least.

 

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I know ppl who even make 75K who would struggle voting for sanders

he appeals to ... lets be honest... the desperate.
That's not untrue. But I also think it speaks to just how many fukking people in this country are desperate. A lot of us are lucky, but I think I read that 69% of Americans have less than $1,000 in a savings account?

It's a strange time. The same CEO in Silicon Valley has an iPhone and uses Netflix just like the person in Mississippi in the trailer park. Never has there been a time where almost everyone has access to many of the same goods and services, yet most Americans are living check to check, even if they don't look like it. I have friends that make high 6-figures but have staggering amounts of student loan debt and/or medical bills and have to penny pinch.

And many Americans that aren't desperate are fairly on the brink. They're just one medical disaster or one layoff away from being desperate. One of the most successful people I know has one of the most successful mixed martial arts schools in the state for over half a decade, and he's had to go back to working a corporate 9-5 gig for the health insurance benefits; all because he's had a couple "Act of God" medical disasters in his family. He's a pretty frugal guy too, but can't afford it. So he's having to back down from the American Dream after making it a reality. In a working system, that shouldn't happen to him.

So yeah. Bernie appeals to a lot of desperate people. That's unfortunately not a small amount of people though.
 
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If Texas latinos are anything like this :picard:

Elena getting 0.1% You hate to see it:picard:
 

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Iono, breh. China and India have a lot of people...
china has garbage healthcare

are you even trying??????

JFC. You're so attached to some healthcare idea and not actually accomplishing something

Sanders really os running some utopia quote

Did y'all forget AOC saying that shyt wasn't even likely to happen???
 

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@dtownreppin214 be clear this one time and one time only. I like Warren. I will never call her fake like some Bernie supporters do and would happily vote for her. It is you. @dora_da_destroyer @wire28 and a few others that I think are full of shyt half the time. Notice how it’s you same 4 or 5 people saying the same shyt over and over and antagonizing everyone. 8 months ago I was saying Sanders and Warren should never beef while you were propping up Beto you have no space to talk. As a matter of fact, you’re one of the first people to start the Warren-Sanders beef when I said relax you said “you got to support and advocate for your candidate.” This is when a coalition of us said we need one of the two to win and relax on friendly fire. I’ve been thought you’re were fake on progressive issues. And now you’re just lying. It’s sad. I openly came out for Bernie is December after the sexism smear, which is when I stopped donating to Warren. The post is in Bernie HQ on here so it’s no secret lol.

Bottom line is I don’t view you as a progressive so when you make arguments in defense of Warren I shoot them down because I think they’re unsound and are arguments SHE wouldn’t make. You’re a Democrat before a supporter of any policy and struggle dealing with someone with a coherent political worldview. You’ve been wrong for 5 years straight, why should people listen to you now?

CC: the rest of the butthurt brigade so I don’t have the displeasure of you quoting me in the future.
 
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Those aren’t good neighborhoods :russ:

exactly why I’m like context matters....you pay that to live in areas where robberies and burglaries are common and both have big homeless camps and populations in the area
Or you could rent in the bomb ass neighborhoods I posted earlier.



who's saying not to ask questions?

Ask away. Write them down. If Bernie wins they'll come into play. If not, who cares. You already have some ideas on how it will get paid for.


Anyway...you and @88m3 got me curious so let's go based off of the chart that as posted in here...


Income of $210K in San Francisco
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- $7000 for health insurance

= $123K take home pay

You can get this nice apartment in Presidio for around $4K

The Presidio Landmark Apartments - San Francisco, CA | Apartments.com




Income of $210K in Brooklyn

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- $7000 for health insurance

= $119K take home pay

You can get this nice apartment in DUMBO for less that $4K a month.

30 Washington St Unit 6N, Brooklyn, NY 11201 - Apartment for Rent in Brooklyn, NY | Apartments.com


If the taxes on that website are way off, lmk. But it doesn't seem terrible, tbh.

Also, I contributed 6% to the 401Ks


I was just using the same zip code you used, btw :yeshrug:

How much you pay for rent or mortgage rn?
 
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