2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[King Kreole]

Wait what part of this disproved what I said?

I only spoke on the who gets covered because Liz at the end of the day is too bendable to deliver on universal healthcare. Thats why the public chose the more authentic candidate to deliver it.

You claimed her proposal was Medicare-for-Some and it's not, her proposal is Medicare4All with a two-step transition plan as opposed to Bernie's one step plan. You claimed her plan would be watered down by Republican bullying, while it's actually Bernie's plan that would have to be negotiated with Republicans. Liz's plan was designed to avoid that and just require negotiation within the Democratic coalition. Her winning vote is Joe Manchin, Bernie's winning vote is Mitch McConnell. Whether you believe Liz is "too bendable" to deliver on universal healthcare is a different discussion, but seeing as universal healthcare will not be deliverable by anyone in the next 4 years, I don't see the value in having that discussion. I'm interested in expanding free, comprehensive health care coverage to as many people as possible, and I believe Warren's plan is the best route to achieve that goal.

I like the intent and thought put into drafting them but ultimately I feel better with a movement of the American people as a driver for it than a bunch of "if, then" ass plans.

nikkas dont even want to discuss plans on merit, just now the goalposts are moved to what republicans will fight as if they dont fight any and everything.

Liz's pragmatism will be needed in the senate.

I'm also a fan of a movement of the American people, which is why I'm a fan of Warren's position that you need a movement pushing from the outside and a leader doing all they can from the inside in order to enact true progressive change. Plans are the weapons wielded by the insider.

 

[Uno Venova]

And she blocked her for that.

These people don't even wanna hear it, they probably think "eh it was only one scenario, incremental change is all we need "

This should NEVER be a scenario

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You claimed her proposal was Medicare-for-Some and it's not, her proposal is Medicare4All with a two-step transition plan as opposed to Bernie's one step plan. You claimed her plan would be watered down by Republican bullying, while it's actually Bernie's plan that would have to be negotiated with Republicans. Liz's plan was designed to avoid that and just require negotiation within the Democratic coalition. Her winning vote is Joe Manchin, Bernie's winning vote is Mitch McConnell. Whether you believe Liz is "too bendable" to deliver on universal healthcare is a different discussion, but seeing as universal healthcare will not be deliverable by anyone in the next 4 years, I don't see the value in having that discussion. I'm interested in expanding free, comprehensive health care coverage to as many people as possible, and I believe Warren's plan is the best route to achieve that goal.


I'm also a fan of a movement of the American people, which is why I'm a fan of Warren's position that you need a movement pushing from the outside and a leader doing all they can from the inside in order to enact true progressive change. Plans are the weapons wielded by the insider.

I love this

 

[hayesc0]

I was playing around with tax calculators between the USA and the UK to see what the difference is.

If you make $50,000 in the US, that’s roughly $38,000 after tax (may vary by state). I get that people contribute to 401ks and health plans but imma keep it simple.

The equivalent of $50,000 in the U.K. is 38,618 pounds. That’s roughly 29,796 pounds after UK taxes are taken out which is equivalates back to $38,577 in US dollars. The UK workers makes roughly the same post tax earnings in terms of purchasing power as the US worker.

If you jump the salary to $150,000, the US worker has roughly $100,700 after tax (may vary by state). The U.K. worker ($115,854 is the British Pound equivalent of $150,000) has 72,557 pounds after tax which is roughly equivalent to $93,900 in US dollars on a post tax basis. It’s $7,000 more than the US person had to pay but in the scheme of things it’s not a big deal.

Why is it that the British pay a comparable tax rate to us but they have various social services that we don’t in America

Because the tax code only benefits the rich and these politicians are slaves to the insurance industry? Alex

 

[King Kreole]

Not sure how you can read this story and then be bewildered at the popularity of M4A

Health insurance companies

Barbaric system. Heartbreaking.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Bernie bout to put a lot of these cats out of work. That’s why they mad.

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Zerlina Maxwell is an American political analyst, commentator, speaker, and writer. She writes and speaks about rape culture, sexual assault, gender inequity, sexual consent, racism, and similar topics.[1][2] She is herself a survivor of sexual assault and describes herself as a survivor activist.[1][3]

 

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[88m3]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The GOP is running these ads right now.

This is becoming less about Trump and MORE about fukkING SOCIALISM.

THIS IS A DISASTER.



Y'all ain't ready.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

do you even care about the down ballot races?

I guess fukk the house, right?

Every times libs trot out the "Bernie voters won't vote down ballot" lie I wonder who would actually be smooth brained enough to believe that, and then I remember this dude.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Y'all wanna kick Lindsay Graham out?

Say goodbye to that:

 

[hayesc0]

Y'all wanna kick Lindsay Graham out?

Say goodbye to that:

They like Blanche down in Sc she not going anywhere.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[King Kreole]

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Zerlina Maxwell is an American political analyst, commentator, speaker, and writer. She writes and speaks about rape culture, sexual assault, gender inequity, sexual consent, racism, and similar topics.[1][2] She is herself a survivor of sexual assault and describes herself as a survivor activist.[1][3]

Yeah I hit the at that post. What, is Bernie going to bring an end to women fighting back against rape culture? Is his movement ending feminism?