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That’s not the same thing. The DNC announces requirements a few weeks before each debate. Bernie knew he needed to get to 1,991 pledged delegates before he entered the race.
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That’s not the same thing. The DNC announces requirements a few weeks before each debate. Bernie knew he needed to get to 1,991 pledged delegates before he entered the race.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
maybe the bernie supporters here should stop spamming blue check accounts or using a tweet as a reply to a question they're askedOkay, don't blame Nap. Either way, yall have a warped sense of what the typical Bernie voter thinks and you apply narratives that are consistently birthed from Twitter blue check accounts.
stop it. you're making excuses to ignore the simple push for help for the working class. thats it and thats all. anything else you're talking about is extra nonsense that you're using as an excuse. stop it. either you rock with the working class or you dont. Your choice. You in or you out? if you say I'm out cause of bernie bros. I'll say you were never in to begin with. this ish is way more important than how you feel about some people who like the guy/policies.
a lot of yall are being super disingenuous.
Bernie never once said its anything wrong with being a millionaire. he said its something wrong when the country is geared towards the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. just because he lucks up with book sales and some real estate to slide into the 1% doesnt mean he's bloomberg and yall know this. it doesnt mean he's bezos. it doesnt mean he's Lori Laughton rich trying to lie to get his kids in a prestigious school .
3 million dollars is not enough to move the needle in politics.you may have enough to buy a plate and to sit down at rich people's politician donor dinner if thats what you wanted to do. but we know he doesnt. so thats out.
Bernie never said all of capitalism is evil and all of it needs to be thrown out. thats not what you heard him say these past few decades. you heard him talking about allowing capitalism to work only for the wealthy is unethical. and it is. you know it is. so why play these games? because you're disingenuous.
Not sure about how much Bernie is worth in comparison with the avg American. But frankly it doesn't matter if he's fighting on behalf of the working class. And given his track record I have every reason to believe he'll follow through (or at least try).
Also the Kochs are deplorable. And so is anyone who tries to subvert democracy with big money.
I am skeptical of Bloombergs intentions quite frankly. He is not going to win against Trump even if he is made the nominee. This gives me the suspicion that his sole agenda is to undermine Bernie. Why?
Perhaps he was placed there by the DNC elites. I am willing to bet its because he doesn't want to pay higher taxes.
Also the best thing Bloomberg and Steyer can do is use their money to support progressive ideas. Eiyher way we do not need a billionaire running against another billionaire. This sets a dangerous precedent and officially makes us an Oligarchy. Is that the type of country you want to live in? Where the only way to become the US president is to either be politician bought off by Oligarchs or to be an actual Oligarch (such as Trump or Bloomberg).
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Sorry that's just a bad take, by that logic really Bloomberg can't even speak about helping anyone except maybe Bezos cause no one is on his level financially. lolThey can speak to the struggle... Rich mofos can’t... Bernie ain’t ever been broke but he sure talks like he is...
You know what else is funny style about Bernie? For all the free shyt he talks up like loan forgiveness and free college has he once introduced a bill for his home state to be beneficiaries of free college tuition and loan forgiveness? I’m just askin
You know what's not funny style? He is the likely Dem nominee. You gonna vote for him if he is or nah?
i dont care what the rules are. if the rules are unethical. do yall hear yourselves? sure he is playing within the rules. but that doesnt make said rules good. they are better than they were, but they still need a ton of work.
all those establishment dems were crying foul when establishment hillary took that L to trump based on the electoral college(superdelegates) but won the popular vote by a large margin(delegate voes). and all the establishment dems said get rid of the electoral college and let the people decide. but OH NO if they dont win the primaries, they want superdelegates(Electoral college) to prop them up for a win. these people are just lying politicians. Bernie keeps it a buck.
Fix the broken system.
it makes perfect sense Bernie said Bloomberg’s wealth is immoral right? How the fukk can Bernie tell that shyt to Bloomberg? Bloomberg wasn’t born rich? Dude grinded and earned his billions... That’s where the hypocrisy comes in with Bernie, us poor folk can say to Bernie his millions is immoral even tho he only worth 3 mill.. how many Americans for $3 mill laying around in cash let allow assets?
storyteller
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maybe the bernie supporters here should stop spamming blue check accounts or using a tweet as a reply to a question they're asked
ehhhh....the last 3 pages are loaded with Bernie supporters refuting Warren G narratives with explanations, links to articles and no tweets necessary. And when we finally get to a page where one Bernie supporter adds tweets, there's two Warren G's doing the exact same thing.
You think there are no broke Jews? You think that entire 2-decade period of his life, with numerous receipts, is ducktales....just because he's ethnically Jewish?believe Jews who claim their broke brehs
Feel free to tell us how you think Bernie made money the first 40 years of his life.
No, representing as a US Senator doesn't mean you are part of local politics in the state, you are part of politics in DC. And securing funding for pet projects in your state is called "earmarking" and has been illegal for an entire decade. The decade before that Bush was in power.
You do know New York State has free undergrad tuition free college now right?
And you apparently think Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer are the ones who brought you that?
Vermont is also considering taking up Bernie's proposal, but THEIR politicians control that, not Bernie.
https://www.vtcng.com/stowe_reporte...cle_bbbeb242-25ff-11e7-aef5-7ba1d167aa0f.html
Dap and rep... These mofos can’t even see the blatant hypocrisy in their faces that’s why I’m glad Bloomberg exposed him..
You think there are no broke Jews? You think that entire 2-decade period of his life, with numerous receipts, is ducktales....just because he's ethnically Jewish?
Feel free to tell us how you think Bernie made money the first 40 years of his life.
No, representing as a US Senator doesn't mean you are part of local politics in the state, you are part of politics in DC. And securing funding for pet projects in your state is called "earmarking" and has been illegal for an entire decade. The decade before that Bush was in power.
And you apparently think Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer are the ones who brought you that?
Vermont is also considering taking up Bernie's proposal, but THEIR politicians control that, not Bernie.
https://www.vtcng.com/stowe_reporte...cle_bbbeb242-25ff-11e7-aef5-7ba1d167aa0f.html
Gillabrand an upstate cac she don’t count.. a Chuck was on board with the college tuition... Chuck gets NY major funding for projects that benefit the state of NY..
fukk is Bernie’s excuse? fukk has he done for the people of VT? Lets talk about it
people that started off in the struggle can speak to the struggle if they havent been rich for far too long. that is factual. because they will live in the rich bubble for so long they will forget some of the basic needs of the regular people. which is why oprah should never be president.They can speak to the struggle... Rich mofos can’t... Bernie ain’t ever been broke but he sure talks like he is...
You know what else is funny style about Bernie? For all the free shyt he talks up like loan forgiveness and free college has he once introduced a bill for his home state to be beneficiaries of free college tuition and loan forgiveness? I’m just askin
Bernie literally just made all that money in the past few years. and thats not even all that much money. and its funny yall trying to peg bernie as out of touch with the people when a lot of yall making 60k in south carolina thinking you're balling and yall want an establishment dem that wont other working class people as much as old man bern is trying to do. yall make zero sense. stop it.
washingtonpost.com
Opinion | Warren puts at least one Bernie Bro in his place
Jennifer Rubin
5-6 minutes
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), with a smile on her face and without raising her voice, eviscerated a supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) at a CNN town hall Wednesday night, leaving him with egg on his face and many who have been the victims of Bernie Bros’ bullying and dishonesty cheering.
In Charleston, S.C., a Sanders supporter asked if Warren and other candidates would try to deprive Sanders of the nomination if he got a plurality but not majority of the delegates. She pointed out that Sanders’s own position had flipped 180 degrees since 2016, when he tried to solicit the help of superdelegates to prevent Hillary Clinton’s nomination. Back then, he insisted that a majority was required with the participation of superdelegates.
Sanders’s supporter tried to deny the indisputable facts. Warren sternly corrected him and continued to admonish Sanders to play by the rules he helped draft. It was a tour de force performance:
The incident underscored several key points about the race and Warren’s verbal abilities.
First, only former South Bend, Ind., mayor Pete Buttigieg comes close to matching her verbal acuity and steeliness in the heat of the moment. Warren’s ability to control the conversation — talking right through the questioner’s suggestion that Sanders had not switched positions — and to both overwhelm and frustrate her verbal prey is unmatched. Those who have watched her dismember former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg recognize the technique. Unlike Sanders, who gets rattled, yells louder and shows anger when challenged, she remains cheerily in command of herself and the situation. (It is what many parents and teachers strive to do when confronted with an argumentative child.)
Second, despite her considerable talents, she refuses to confront Sanders when it could make a difference in the race. She shies from engaging with him onstage, preferring to attack other candidates who, quite frankly, are not her problem in the race. Sanders is. Instead, she argues she would be a better president than Sanders but really does not explain why. She is mired in third or fourth place because voters think Sanders is a strong, tough candidate who can beat President Trump. Only by showing how easily it is to tie him up in knots, expose his hypocrisy and reveal his weaknesses will Warren be able to knock him out of the lead. Refusing to do so suggests she is not playing for keeps.
She is never going to win over the Bernie Bros who refuse to recognize reality any more than Democrats are going to win over red hat-wearing Make America Great Again fans. She can, however, win progressives who are not cultists and lure some moderates who recognize her as tough combatant, more reasonable and hence more effective than Sanders.
Third, Sanders decries a contested convention — erroneously called a “brokered” convention because no one is in a position to broker anything these days — because he believes he will only have a plurality. It is also noteworthy that he is at a disadvantage should the nomination go to a second round, not because evil corporate forces (i.e., other Democrats) are seeking to do him in, but because he has for years stuck his finger in the eye of fellow Democrats, sought to foment divisions, alienated moderates and presented himself as the only Democrat with a pure heart. That is not the profile of someone likely to assemble a coalition. Indeed, it speaks to a fundamental weakness: He lacks the skills to win over those who are needed both to win an electoral majority and then govern. (Imagine the person who’s been ridiculing Democratic moderates trying to negotiate a Medicare-for-all scheme with these same moderates.) A contested convention would test the skills of persuasion, compromise and conciliation, none of which Sanders has mastered.
Finally, Warren reminded us how deeply hypocritical Sanders’s approach has been. For all his kvetching about rules and unfairness, Warren is correct that his supporters worked furiously to retain the rule requiring a majority of delegates for the nomination. To now object, and to object with great moral indignation and willful misrepresentation about the sequence of events, speaks to his lack of candor and willingness to manipulate his supporters. How did the questioner come to believe, falsely, that Sanders has been consistent? Inside the Bernie Bros echo chamber, critics are liars and Sanders is the victim — always. Personality cults usually operate this way.
Watching Warren slice and dice a know-it-all was satisfying (as was watching her flummox Bloomberg), but if she wants to stop Sanders, she has to summon the will to put him in his place when the eyes of the party are on the two of them. That comes in a debate, when she needs to decide if she will risk the wrath of the Bernie Bros to defend the facts, herself and the party from a disastrous nomination.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
not at all, there's the same probably 6 warren supporters, and nap is the only one who posts tons of tweets, king kreole occasionally posts a tweet to support one of his longer replies to people. this thread gets spammed with bernie bros self-affirming, twitter echo chamber - but yall never call it because as long as it coincides with your beliefs, it's not spam.