2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[A.R.$]

what's enough votes tho? if biden goes in with a 100 del lead, bernie supporters will want to go through the entire process, and vis versa. no one is going to be happy unless the margin is undeniable

This is why the republican’s winner takes all system is much better. The Dems are making this more complicated than it has to be. Imo the person with the most votes should win. I don’t care if it is by one vote. How can the Dems dislike the electoral college and have a bullshyt system like this in place?

 

[Kenny West]

Here's the thing, if this country is supposedly ripe for a revolution then 77-yr old Joe fukking Biden has no business getting in the way of it. If he does, Bernie underestimated the appetite for a revolution right now and his ability to attract new voters to his campaign.

All sarcasm aside I agree with this take.

The context of the last election and 45 combined with the state of american inequality definitely makes the revolution angle difficult.

But I also feel like now is as good a chance as any and Bernie has pull on independent and new voters that the rest of the electorate doesnt have, trump included.

A path to victory is there but nothing is granted or guaranteed.

Thats fine with me

 

[Professor Emeritus]

quite honestly there are two camps in this election "beat trump" and then those who think this election is a battle for the direction of the party. i believe the former is the larger group, most exit polls show voting for someone who can "beat trump" was more important than voting for someone "ideologically aligned". if no one gets to ~1900 and it's close, like within 200 dels, i'm fine with whatever the outcome of a brokered convention would be. that said, even tho the segment of people who think this year is an idealogical war isn't the majority, it's big enough to sink the election either way...so to that point, i hope someone wins flat out or at least gets an undeniable lead

"within 200" is NOT close in this divided-delegate model.

Obama only finished 63 pledged delegates ahead of Clinton and he had that shyt wrapped up months ahead of time. You can beat someone safely in a state and still end up with the same # of delgates. You can beat someone by big Obama-McCain margins in some states and barely finish 2-3 delegates ahead. 100-200 delegates ahead would be a BIG lead. 40-100 is still a very safe lead. I'd say it would have to be <40 difference to even be considered "close" enough to have any doubt who the voters favored. Pete has a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finish and still only amassed 26 delegates combined.

Y’all are confusing me. Everyday you’ve been saying she needs to drop out because she has no path.
Now the DNC monster wants this fifth place candidate and her minuscule voting base to stay in to stifle Bernie?
Y’all need to get your talking points straight.

Your argument doesn't make any sense. Someone can be nowhere near the 1500 or so delegates it would take to win the race and still easily have the 100-300 delegates it would take to swing the race in the other candidate's favor.

You've implied before that Nader swung the 2000 election in Bush's favor which is the same damn situation.

 

[Atlrocafella]

I don't agree with this in fact it would be his best choice

No it wouldn’t. Liz agenda runs total opposite to Biden. Why in the world would moderates(like me) support Liz being anywhere near the Oval Office. It’s a reason we don’t support her or Bernie. They are Too far left with their policies.

 

[Uno]

No it wouldn’t. Liz agenda runs total opposite to Biden. Why in the world would moderates(like me) support Liz being anywhere near the Oval Office. It’s a reason we don’t support her or Bernie. They are Too far left with their policies.

The Bernie bros here tell me that she is a fake progressive. Remember she used to be a republican and bends to the knee of the establishment.

If anything Liz being in the race it hurts Biden. 3 Moderates vs Bernie.

 

[MoneyTron]

No it wouldn’t. Liz agenda runs total opposite to Biden. Why in the world would moderates(like me) support Liz being anywhere near the Oval Office. It’s a reason we don’t support her or Bernie. They are Too far left with their policies.

Ehh I'd count myself as a moderate too but I'd be OK with Warren at VP. She's smart as shyt and would contribute a lot to the office.

 

[Tommy Fits]

Whoever chooses Liz for VP gets the nomination

 

[Atlrocafella]

Ehh I'd count myself as a moderate too but I'd be OK with Warren at VP. She's smart as shyt and would contribute a lot to the office.

There are far better choices for Biden and moderate Dems to make then Warren.
Warren wants to get rid of private insurance just like Bernie, why would Biden even entertain an idea of having her close to the Oval?

Biden needs to choose a younger/moderate fresh face Dem like Keisha Lance Bottoms out of Atlanta.
Or maybe tap Amy or Kamala.

but y’all need to kill this nonsense of picking someone who is far left to be your running mate. He would literally turn people like me(which is the base of his support) off and he knows this.

 

[the cac mamba]

#bidenbrehs

need a strong showing tomorrow to get this communist out of the paint. i think the fears are real: people might be excited about bernie now, but we'll see how they feel about voting to raise their own taxes i think i'll believe the dems who are actually voicing their fears about it, given their experience. the party really doesnt want to run with bernie at the top of the ticket

BUT, in some fukkin scenario where coronavirus destroys the economy and people are going into debt just to get tested, there literally couldnt be a better scenario for a sanders presidency. shyt, in that case i'd be bernie over biden

see what happens i guess

 

[MoneyTron]

There are far better choices for Biden and moderate Dems to make then Warren.
Warren wants to get rid of private insurance just like Bernie, why would Biden even entertain an idea of having her close to the Oval?

Biden needs to choose a younger/moderate fresh face Dem like Keisha Lance Bottoms out of Atlanta.
Or maybe tap Amy or Kamala.

but y’all need to kill this nonsense of picking someone who is far left to be your running mate. He would literally turn people like me(which is the base of his support) off and he knows this.

Like I said, I’d be OK with it. That’s not an endorsement or a first choice.

But would stop me from voting for them? fukk no.

 

[Cheddar Biscuits]

I haven't been this excited for a presidential debate in a long time.

 

[Loose]

There are far better choices for Biden and moderate Dems to make then Warren.
Warren wants to get rid of private insurance just like Bernie, why would Biden even entertain an idea of having her close to the Oval?

Biden needs to choose a younger/moderate fresh face Dem like Keisha Lance Bottoms out of Atlanta.
Or maybe tap Amy or Kamala.

but y’all need to kill this nonsense of picking someone who is far left to be your running mate. He would literally turn people like me(which is the base of his support) off and he knows this.

Wait you want to add two former prosecutor's as the vp? that's automatically death in a lot of communities across the United states . No one even know who keisha lance is how will that benefit biden?

 

[the cac mamba]

There are far better choices for Biden and moderate Dems to make then Warren.
Warren wants to get rid of private insurance just like Bernie, why would Biden even entertain an idea of having her close to the Oval?

Biden needs to choose a younger/moderate fresh face Dem like Keisha Lance Bottoms out of Atlanta.
Or maybe tap Amy or Kamala.

but y’all need to kill this nonsense of picking someone who is far left to be your running mate. He would literally turn people like me(which is the base of his support) off and he knows this.

id rather biden run with kamala than warren. if warren is this supposed legislative genius who knows how to pay for medicare for all without raising anyones taxes, then let her stay in the senate and actually right the fukkin bills

 

[King Static X]

Whoever chooses Liz for VP gets the nomination

Says who?

Liz would a terrible VP choice in this election.

 

[FAH1223]

what's enough votes tho? if biden goes in with a 100 del lead, bernie supporters will want to go through the entire process, and vis versa. no one is going to be happy unless the margin is undeniable

Even in Biden’s best case scenario he’d be 70 delegates short of Bernie after tomorrow

Most forecasts have Bernie opening up a delegate lead of between 140-200 delegates tomorrow.

If Biden underperforms for some reason, that opens up even more...