dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
no one cares about your atlanta mayor
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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OfTheCross
Veteran
When's the next debate?
Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
I need to see the debate with him & Bern
You don't even have to be viable to cost someone delegates. You just have to pull %'s from them.
Pete got 2 delegates more than Bernie in Iowa even though he only finished 0.1% ahead in the popular vote. Warren got 18% there....let's imagine without Warren that Bernie does merely 5% better than Pete, 35% to 30%. Couldn't that get him 19-20 delegates instead of the 12 he got and finish 5-6 ahead of Pete instead of 2 behind?
In New Hampshire, Warren did even worse, just 9% and got 0 delegates. Bernie finished 1.3% ahead of Pete but only got the same delegates. Let's say without Warren he would have picked up 5% more and won by 4%...maybe 3 more delegates in that case?
And those were small states. In bigger states the swing might be 10 delegates. Multiplied over the entire election, Warren could easily swing 200-300 delegates away from Bernie, both by taking them herself and by costing him position against the other candidates. That could easily be the margin of the race (Obama only beat Clinton by 63 pledged delegates) or the difference between reaching 1911 or not reaching it.
That's how the system works. Whether or not Warren could swing the primaries even if she isn't in the running is not even a question for anyone who can do math.
Cheddar Biscuits
Give Me Sight Beyond Sight
Superdelegates vote at a contested convention, not a brokered convention. And the only way we don't go to a contested convention is if someone gets 1991 delegates. Not happening.
This is true. Stacey Abrams would be a much better candidate.
Actually6Foot3
Veteran
what the hell does the first part of that have to do with the second? You’re trying to conflate two things that have nothing to do with each other. How does this even have likes,are y’all retarded?
Are you implying that her staying in doesn’t stifle the progressive vote to Bernie?
She literally said it herself that she’s just want to accrue as many delegates as possible. She herself admitted that that’s the new goal. Not to win states but to win enough delegates to last until the convention.
now why would someone who is polling in 5th place stay in meanwhile the 3rd and 4th place centrists who had a better shot than she did drop out? Pete won a state, Amy was projected to win her home state, meanwhile Lizzy is projected to not win a single state including her home state)
minuscule is hyperbole I mean this isn’t Tom Steyer we’re talking about. Even if she doesn’t hit the threshold of 15%, the 9%-14% of the vote she’s still likely to get that the majority of whom would otherwise likely go to Bernie does hurt him in that it means less delegates in the end for him even if he wins the state. And for a man who it’s trying to win a plurality to avoid a contested contested convention yes her staying in hurts Bernie helps Biden
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Yeah I know those were the "moderates" I was referring to.Lenin actually struck the provisional government after the initial revolution, when it was clear it was weak af; took like 8 months
yseJ
Empire strikes back
Biden vs trump would mean last two elections we had a clown/troll/idiot, a senile man who doesnt know where he is and what day it is sometimes, and a widely disliked woman as candidates
the two-party system cant get the fukk out of here any sooner 
Warren is the real candidate and people are scared.
Patreon millionaires talking shyt
You are wrong.
fukk outta here Lizbo
Your mediocre privileged white male candidate y'all, keep giving away your votes to him
