2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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always here to provide insight brehThis was a good post thank you for sharing it. I had no idea those were her views on Israel.
TLDR her views are fukked up
He is going to try to use this to pivot on healthcare where he is the strongest and I don’t blame him. Best use of heart stents in the history of the world.
Warren is just good at this.
She really has a sense that it is us vs. them. They were starting to attack her and she sent them cookies cause Bernie is in the hospital. That shot is legit wholesome.
Cookies to a man who just had a STEMI/NSTEMI and should be on a cardiac diet along with DAPT?
warren campaign knows what they are doing 
Warren moving through the hate 
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Kamala must've been a forum poster back in the day. She wants Trump banned on Twitter, making threads in help section and sending private messages like "Mods?? Mods! Mods!" 
But the poster is teflon
But the poster is teflon
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Capitalism = an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Imperialism = the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas
There is no inherent definitional overlap. You're essentially positing that there can never be an isolationist capitalist state, or there can never be an expansionist socialist/communist state. History is obviously rife with examples of both. History is also filled with examples of imperialist capitalist states, the current era United States being one, but that relationship is not inextricably linked. Again, it seems like you're falling into that trendy trap of lazily throwing out "capitalism" as the cause of all the world's problems. It deserves a much more robust critique than the quality of thinking you're displaying here.
See, this is the crux of your issue here. Your definition of capitalism is not the same as the one Warren is using. The way she is utilizing the term is directly tied to the emancipatory power of markets. (see: Elizabeth Warren’s Theory of Capitalism) She always brings it back to healthy, well-regulated markets. When she says she's a "capitalist to her bones", she's talking about how well regulated markets can provide incredible social and economic gains for broad swaths of the population and working class. You seem to be conflating "crony capitalism" with "capitalism" proper, perhaps believing the latter inevitably leads to the former. But ultimately, we're still talking about how to structure markets. All economic theories are theories of markets. Marxism, communism, libertarianism, capitalism, etc.2. Capitalism is not simply a theory of markets
If you cannot see the resurgence of far-right movements across the globe, particularly Europe, and the need to provide a robust progressive counter-movement, your head is stuck up your ass, with all due respect. Saying "well, the communist movement already has a (minuscule) presence in these countries, so there's no need for the most powerful nation in the world to provide material support to the progressive movements across the globe" is very disturbing, and enables these far-right movements to thrive. There's an ideological war going on. Having Bernie or Liz internationalize their movements is perhaps the most important foreign policy tenet at this moment in history. You're smarter than this.3.@ internationalizing the progressive movement. IT ALREADY EXISTS IN OTHER COUNTRIES. It's called social democracy. The real leftist movements include: democratic socialism, socialism, communism, libertarianism (the real philosophy, not the white boy American kind), and anarchism.
Your desire to virtue signal has led you to make what is a really stupid point here, divorced from reality. The primary relationship the United States has with those three countries is rendered through a militaristic lens due to the geopolitical history of these regions. I would find your inability to connect the presence of literal military troops in these countries with their population's quest for self-determination to be stunningly idiotic if I didn't believe you were being disingenuous with this point. I'd like you to tell the people of Yemen that the United States' militaristic and financial support of the Saudi regime is inconsequential to the existential state of their nation and people, that it's just a "troops, money, and bills" kind of thing, that if they were truly "living in the moment fighting for self determination" they would be concerned about other affairs, as they have genocide perpetrated against them.
Whatever. Y'all love genocide until a Republican is behind it.
I can do this all day. Y'all don't reeeeally want to have these conversations.
Congratulations, you've discovered how disgusting the mainstream US foreign policy, both Democrat and Republican, is towards Palestinian people! Warren has held some horrific views on this issue. Even Bernie has parroted genocidal "both sides" rhetoric against the Palestinian people, and he's the best candidate on this specific issue! If you're a single issue voter on Israel-Palestine, Bernie is probably the choice for you, but Noam Chomsky isn't on the ballot. I wish he was, and it's a fukking shame that these are our options...but these are our options. There are no clean hands, just some with less blood on them than others. I honestly respect anyone who refuses to vote based on that. I'm sure as hell not here to convince anyone Elizabeth Warren has a clean record or is even the best candidate when it comes to this issue.
the next guy
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So how do you feel about all the black people who support Biden?
Will bernie make the October 15th debate?
Cause Harris and Buttigieg are salivating....
Cause Harris and Buttigieg are salivating....
Recovery is 7-10 days and he's reportedly up and walking around so yeah... he'll be there. Probably will be in better shape than the last debate where he had no voice after doing dozens of rallies.
He is going to try to use this to pivot on healthcare where he is the strongest and I don’t blame him. Best use of heart stents in the history of the world.
Warren is just good at this.
She really has a sense that it is us vs. them. They were starting to attack her and she sent them cookies cause Bernie is in the hospital. That shot is legit wholesome.
teamwork makes the dream work
