2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[88m3]

Genuinely sorry to hear about Bernie Sanders

 

[johnedwarduado]

You’re doing a disservice to yourself and the Warren campaign as long as you keep clinging to the fiction that it’s a smear.



I don’t think it’s a killshot. Just a legit negative on an already weak candidate that is going nowhere and the impact will only exacerbated by Warren stans trying to erroneously dismiss it as a smear.



You compared and contrasted the Bernie Sanders socialism as a campaign negative, but whether people go for it or not Bernie has already shown he’s ready to defend his democratic socialist position directly and articulately.

Warren has and continues to be awful at addressing the native American thing.

Why do you keep quoting this white supremacist racist right winger indian dude? might as well quote storm front and ***** fukking idiot

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Anti-Bernie Twitter is being absolutely disgusting.

Warren must get her supporters under control.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Why do you keep quoting this white supremacist racist right winger indian dude? might as well quote storm front and ***** fukking idiot

Lol so because he’s a right winger the facts he’s reciting cease to matter?

 

[acri1]

Before you get despaired...

Last quarter Trump raised $54M and the RNC raised $51M. For a total of $105M.

So let's say this quarter Trump raised $65M and RNC raised $60M for that $125M total. It may be higher for Trump, lesser for RNC but whatever..

What it tells me is two things...

1. Trump campaign itself is on par with what all the Dem candidates are raising. So no big deal IMO.

2. The RNC fundraising is what's eye popping. The DNC is struggling. What happened in 2016 was the Trump campaign outsourcing so much of its field work and ops to the RNC since the Trump campaign was notoriously disorganized. Remember, Hillary outspent Trump by a healthy chunk.

Despite the DNC struggling, the Dems are so much more decentralized. ActBlue is used by every candidate and the Republicans don't have an answer to that though they just started "WinRed" but it hasn't caught fire. So candidates are getting more of the pie on the Dem side.

The DCCC and DSCC also raised a lot of money too. More than their GOP counterparts.

We'll have to see what happens but that's an overly optimistic take IMO.

As hated as Trump is there's no way the RNC should be ahead. Incumbent advantage + fundraising advantage is not a good look for Dems at all. I don't think there's any good excuse either.

Hate to say it but at this point I still give Trump 80/20 odds of being reelected regardless of opponent.

 

[Mook]

This world ain't right. He worked his entire life for the people. It took him a lifetime of just being a damn good man to even sniff the chair to actually do good. And this is how the world takes him out. This is fukked man. That mighta been it for me.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Anti-Bernie Twitter is being absolutely disgusting.

Warren must get her supporters under control.

stfu stop trying to create drama. Liz supporters are here wishing him well. fukkin troll

Must be trump supporters doing shyt like that.

 

[the next guy]

Get better Bernie!

 

[the next guy]

Please



Weeks ago ya was making all kinds Alzheimer’s n Dementia comments about Biden. One dude even said Biden’s dikk was gonna fall off during a speech. Spare me da fake outrage.

JoE BIdeN tOo oLd anD sIcK.

Time for Bernie to drop out.

Dude forgot Obama's name during a speech. Come On!

 

[FAH1223]

We'll have to see what happens but that's an overly optimistic take IMO.

As hated as Trump is there's no way the RNC should be ahead. Incumbent advantage + fundraising advantage is not a good look for Dems at all. I don't think there's any good excuse either.

Hate to say it but at this point I still give Trump 80/20 odds of being reelected regardless of opponent.

The GOP is taking cash from big business, corporate titans, billionaires. They’ve never had issues raising money. They passed those tax cuts and they’re being rewarded.

But just remember, they had money last year and lost the House

If Trump has approval ratings on par with Larry Hogan in Maryland or Charlie Baker in Massachusetts then I’d be worried. We saw what a big war chest and popularity does in those races cc: @tru_m.a.c @mastermind


And of course Trump has a good small donor operation that only Bernie has eclipsed. Warren will probably reach Trump’s number of individual donors soon.

What’s concerning is the Dems central committee the DNC is not in good shape. Perez hasn’t done the job.

If you look in aggregate you’ll find the money war isn’t as bad as it looks.

 

[GodinDaFlesh]

Warren clearly has God on her side

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

This is just categorically false. Why do you think people keep talking about Harvard touting her as a POC hire? The entire scandal, dating back to her Senate run against Scott Brown, has been based on her getting special career benefits because she lied about being Native American. It's an affirmative action scandal. Pow Wow Chow cookbook isn't at the heart of this smear, Harvard and the State Bar of Texas are. Falsely believing you have a claim to Native American identity because your parents told you exaggerated stories about your ancestry is just embarrassing. Purposefully lying about your identity to scam your way into benefits reserved for POC is a scandal with some teeth. Unfortunately for you, the latter has been debunked.




If you want to turn this issue into "Elizabeth Warren naively believed some family lore her parents told her that turned out to be false" then be my guest. That's a nothingburger scandal.

But keep pushing it, you'll take her down one day

What do you mean "this is just categorically false"?

You are attempting to conveniently limit the scope of her Native American controversy to being solely about whether or not she got career benefits over claiming it, that's why you keep harping on that Boston Globe article and ignoring overall issue. It's almost like Trump saying "no collusion!" over and over and ignoring all over proof of malfeasance.

-FACT: She falsely claimed being Native American into her 60's.

-FACT: She gave an elaborate story about her parents eloping over her mom's fictional Delaware and Cherokee heritage as late as 2012 that has been debunked with receipts by actual American Indian tribal leaders.

-FACT: She listed herself as Native American while she was a professor, allowing universities to tout her as a minority professor, helping to fill university diversity statistics and potentially keeping out actual minorities from her faculty position.

-FACT: Time and time again when asked to provide any documentary evidence of her Cherokee heritage, she has refused or failed. When asked by the Boston Herald, she cited 2 things: a geneologist who suggested with no evidence that she might be 1/32 Cherokee, and a book of recipes she submitted to a Cherokee cookbook called Pow Wow Chow that seemed to have been plagiarized from the NYT in 1984. When asked later she cited her high cheekbones and once told a reporter she has family pictures but they're for her when asked if she had pictures to prove her family's heritage.

-FACT: She finally took a DNA test last year and it showed she was 1/1000 something American Indian and cited this as proof. She later apologized after being ridiculed.

I don't know how anyone can look at any of that and come away not feeling she has been dishonest and fake about who she is, and it will give most voters a negative reaction.

Do I think any of this should or will disqualify her for President, or will it stop me from voting for her? No.

But it is a real issue that deserves scrutiny not a smear, and it will come up. Scoffing at it like it's a non-factor is dumb. It's going to keep coming up and your girl better do a better job of addressing it than she has done so far.

 

[A.R.$]

From what they are saying Bernie should be okay within a week which is a good thing. I criticized Bernie’s team last month because they had him doing too many events right before the debate, and he ended up messing up his voice. They have to manage his workload better. It is unfortunately this is coming right when he is starting to raise in the polls again.

 

[Armchair Militant]

Bernie should drop out of the race.

I wonder who Bernie Bros have as their backup plan. They've been attacking Warren a lot lately.

 

[A.R.$]

Bernie should drop out of the race.

I wonder who Bernie Bros have as their backup plan. They've been attacking Warren a lot lately.

I’m supporting Warren, but it doesn’t make since for Bernie to drop out. He should be healthy in about a week. He has diehard supporters and plenty of money to make a run. He just received good polling news in the last few days. There is no incentive for him to drop out now. If he did drop out some of his supporters would go to Warren, some to Biden, and some would just stay home.