2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Same to you.
It was that giveaway. Haven't heard about anyone winning tho.
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Yes, she's less popular than Trump.
She's less popular than Trump.
She's less popular than Trump.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
I ignored dude a few months ago because I started noticing that shift too.Imagine thinking voting is supposed to be about more than voting for the candidate you like the most while also refusing to vote in protest despite what ills my come of it.
You were a good parody account, but your obsession with Napoleon and scowering through right wing fascism online has turned you into someone not even worth responding too.
You've lost the narrative and you've lost yourself in the process.
I look forward to you doing what the cac mamba couldn't and finally unseating nap as the HL WOAT.
I can see him ending up a Trump supporter by next August.
I remember. However, the establishment hated her after she resigned and endorsed Bernie.
I missed when Biden and her was chatting. I still cant see him giving Tulsi a cabinet position. She is highly disliked by the main stream media, and the establishment democrats.
afterlife2009
Superstar
vote for Bernie!
If Medicare for all isn't an option because the votes aren't there, but adding a public option to Obamacare and suring up the protections that have been taken away during the Trump administration either directly or by refusing to defend the law how is that problematic?
For perspective:
Trump was unable to build a wall coast to coast.
He was unable to repeal Obamacare.
In order to pass his tax cuts he had to make numerous concessions, one of which included raising the budget and paying for social programs.
I love candidates running on idealism, but without pragmatism you're going to take a lot of self inflicted wounds.
What do I mean?
Trump was offered border funding for DACA and turned it down (25bn I believe) if you'd like an example
Basil of Baker Street
Banned
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Both Liz and Bernie are playing the game right. Support M4A as your starting position so you can extract the best deal possible when it comes time to actually legislate. Reid is talking too much here, peeping game and undercutting Liz's bargaining position
, but he's ultimately right. Bernie would do the same. It'd be criminally negligent if the President didn't. The only people who seem to think M4A is going to be a reality in the immediate future are Bernie dead-enders who ascribe to him some magical ability to turn Republicans and corporate Democrats into socialists. Thankfully Bernie is smarter than that and has shown himself to be an effective pragmatist when it comes to actually wielding power.
I'm in agreement. I'm interested in his end game since he was one of the people who wanted Warren to run in 2016.Both Liz and Bernie are playing the game right. Support M4A as your starting position so you can extract the best deal possible when it comes time to actually legislate. Reid is talking too much here, peeping game and undercutting Liz's bargaining position
Obviously he wants dems to be on their toes and knows its going to be a dogfight in 2020 that will depend heavily on turnout.
Is this his way of making her appeal to moderates?
People forget how pragmatic Bernie can be. His supporters forget how he abandoned Tim Canova during his primary race against Debbi Wasserman Schultz, in order to get some of his priorities into the democratic platform. Also he stated he wouldn’t vote for The affordable care act without a public option. He held out till the last moment and voted for the Affordable Care Act without an public option. To his credit he was able to extract funding for community health centers and a few other concessions. Point is Both Bernie and Liz are going to try to get the best deals they can. I hope the base don’t turn on them if they expand health but it is not Medicare For All.Both Liz and Bernie are playing the game right. Support M4A as your starting position so you can extract the best deal possible when it comes time to actually legislate. Reid is talking too much here, peeping game and undercutting Liz's bargaining position
afterlife2009
Superstar
lol i'm very aware of Bernie's pragmatism and most supporters are aware that medicare for all will not magically be passed in the first two years or whatever. Bernie is on record saying he will supporting other Democrats in the primaries anyway.Both Liz and Bernie are playing the game right. Support M4A as your starting position so you can extract the best deal possible when it comes time to actually legislate. Reid is talking too much here, peeping game and undercutting Liz's bargaining position
It's about messaging and Bernie is the best medicare for all messenger by far. He hasn't wavered on it all and no political people or journalists are saying he will move away from it in the general. Look at how he was doing rallies to save Obamacare and how he does town halls to talk about people's medical problems and then goes into talking about medicare for all. Now apply this to a hypothetical Bernie presidency where he's the most powerful person. Bernie knows how message it and will make it more popular than it already it is now.
In the primary, medicare for all is my number one issue. It's non negotiable which is why anyone who has health care as their number one issue should be voting for him. I've quoted you in the past with her questionable quotes, journos and other candidates noticing her wishy washiness on it.
Right now, most of the negative ads in America attacking M4A are going after Bernie, not Liz. Will she will be more likely to defend Medicare for All when there's billions in ads from the GOP, pharma, hospitals, insurers, doctors? Doesn't seem likely
And I'm sure Harry Reid knows very well. Harry was Senate Majority when he recruited Warren to build the CFPB and she was then recruited by him to run for Senate in 2012.