King Kreole
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Average RN makes $73K, so definitely not as egregiously high as doctors, but yes, there is bloat almost everywhere in the healthcare system.
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Lol @ proposing a plan that says hey “we’re going to cut the pay of a whole profession”...one that actually provides value at thatStart with whatever you want. Insurers. Pharma. Medical devices. Hospitals. You're still gonna end up at this same doctor conundrum.
Y'all acting like doctors are some especially aggrieved class, consigned to the gutters by an ungrateful society. These people, by and large, are NOT struggling, they can take the fukkin cut.
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Compared to 2016 it’s a large percentageBlack ppl as a whole don’t fukk wit Bernie
Only a VERY small percentage
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An RN making $73k is bloat? How much should they be making then?
That's fine and that is to be expected. Hence the question, why are you choosing Healthcare professionals salaries?
I get where you're coming from I do. And this largely applies to general practitioners. IMHO it's an easier sell to use more NP and require less in person visits to handle routine care as a better solution.
We can disagree here though as it isn't too important to the overall position imo.
This is where we will disagree completely.
1. Doctors high pay is largely a result of the high cost of education in this country and the high cost of starting a practice.
200 thousand dollars tables, 300k degrees, etc. If you want to cut cost you need to cut the cost of entry. If you don't many of these people will move into other Stem degrees that require less education and pay more.
2. Doctors are almost always the highest paid in societies you use as justification for why our doctors should make less. This is something you have to reconcile.
100k ain't shyt these days.
Jhoon
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If it wasn’t for nursing there would be revolution in this country.100k ain't shyt these days.
Nurses are underpaid. They do the majority of the heavy lifting for patients. They're required to be skilled, multifaceted, unflappable, talked down to, and setup their doctor and thus the hospital for success.
They should be paid more, especially in the ER and childcare.
If you can afford healthcare the US has some of the best Healthcare in the country.
If the argument is US med workers salaries cost 100bn a year more than Germany then we have a space to fix that. Lower the defense budget. Why are we raising it when everyone is saying we're pulling out of these expensive occupations.
Some careers require more teaching, skills and mental work than others. I’m in the healthcare field so I know what goes on. Imagine being an icu nurse caring for four intubated patients on all types of drips with no tech help . You have these peoples lives in your hands. Imagine dealing with a patients that’s on the verge of crashing and they have multiple organ failure and you have to pick the right meds and perform the right interventions to keep them alive. One fukk up and you’re getting sued. People in America are quick to sue you too.Medical School tuition costs and student debt are both issues that need to be addressed, but ultimately the quality of life for doctors will need to drop if M4A or any form of quality universal healthcare is to be adopted. Medicine shouldn't be an field one goes into to get rich. I don't see a problem with a GP having around the same quality of life as a public defender or teacher (which should go up) and a surgeon having the same as a professor.
Breh being a doctor , PA, nurse etc is a 24/7 365 day career. When’s the last time you heard a teacher was on call for a hospital whether it’s for nurses needing orders or to go into surgery. Some doctors are literally in charge of thousands of people’s Heath with their practices. people rely on checkups from Said doctors to stay healthy and live a good life.
Not trying to diminish the jobs other industries do either but you got to realize these jobs take a toll on you. It’s mentally , physically and financially draining. Every year you have to make sure all your credentials are in order every year you have to make sure you have continuing education. Medicine is not a joke.
Id be more in favor of raising taxes than cutting pay for those in the medical field in regards to expanded medical coverage
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
When you compare the salaries of healthcare professionals worldwide to their American counterparts you notice there is a huge divergence between the wages. The new argument is that the wages are the reason why healthcare costs are through the roof?
6 Reasons Healthcare Is So Expensive in the U.S.
The example of 1300 billing clerks for a hospital with 900 beds is an example of bloated administrative costs. Wages in the administrative and clerical divisions of healthcare should probably be cut. Not the doctors, PAs or nurses.
Drug prices are also ridiculous. Im currently trying to get off a medication that retails for 3k
thats ludicrous (and also the reason I'm still awake and borderline tweaking 
)My insurance covers it. But once i saw the price i was like fukk that. If i lose insurance for some reason theres no way in hell id afford that so i may as well get off it now
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Lol @ proposing a plan that says hey “we’re going to cut the pay of a whole profession”...one that actually provides value at that
Ok
It's exactly what Canada did when rolling out their universal healthcare.
The doctor’s strike that nearly killed Canada’s Medicare-for-all plan, explained
Doctors made a stink, went on strike for a couple of weeks, and eventually backed down when the government stood its ground. There are other professions that will need to have their pay cut to enact a more equitable society. If we're already getting squeamish asking doctors to not be the most lucrative profession in society in order to bring about universal healthcare, we absolutely will not have the fortitude to enact any of the progressive policy measures.