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Breh,
That don’t understand. I had the misfortune of living in the panhandle of Florida when I was in the military. Worst fukking years of my life. When people think of Florida they think of South Beach, and Universal Studios. They don’t understand that Northwest Florida and a large part of Central Florida is completely redneck, highly conservative, and outright racist.
Florida is a bottom 4 state.
 

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Bernie will pick a woman. You can’t be blamed for stopping a woman president twice and not put a woman on the ticket.

He may. I doubt it’ll be a woman of color. But idk. Dude does what he wants
 

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Deval Patrick is from MA like her and is lesser version of Cory Booker who is a lesser version of Barack Obama.

I'd say Cory < Deval < Barack. But I get what you're saying. Governor of MA who's between progressive and liberal would good for Warren. The only issue would be his employment at Bain Capital.
 

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So a lot of people don't like Rick Scott. Plus there wasn't a racist campaign waged against Nelson. Your "outperforming" defense is weak at best.

Gillum is an excellent great VP pick for Warren. Though I admit Abrams would probably be better. And Deval better still.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think you can have a president ticket that represents the same state.
 

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I'd say Cory < Deval < Barack. But I get what you're saying. Governor of MA who's between progressive and liberal would good for Warren. The only issue would be his employment at Bain Capital.
Deval energizes the same people Warren energizes and it’s not working class people. That’s the problem. The scenarios I gave with Sanders was him bringing in the #imeithher vote while having someone who is progressive enough to not upset the base. Deval Patrick is a centrist black dude who went to Harvard with O-Dawg but lacks his charisma. Moreover, they’re both representing New England.
 

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I'm just curious if you came to this conclusion with any polling data to support it. I scan through every other race in Kentucky last night and one Dem lost by 5 points (for AG) and then every other Dem lost by double digits (closest being 14 points). So I'm looking at what went down and I just have no idea how anyone concludes that Beshear should have won by double-digits unless there were polls suggesting as much until the GOP started mailing out "Socialism" pamphlets or some ish. But I'm looking at after the fact numbers. So if there's writing or polling or something to actually show that Beshear was a shoe-in to win until Socialism came up, I'm down to check that out.
I'm not basing it on the pre-election polls, I'm basing it on his approval ratings. You would think someone with an approval rating of only 29% going against a clean-cut moderate candidate with a father that was a popular governor should have lost by more than 5k votes, right?

And despite that they won in Kentucky of all places. Isn’t that a positive sign that the socialist strategy may be a dud for Repubs?

I disagree. I think the socialist strategy kept this from being a more convincing victory. Kentucky is currently red but it's not Mississippi red. Beshear's dad won the governorship by points in 2011 and the D's won every state race. That was only 8 years ago.
 

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Like the way warren fans attack other candidates? :pachaha: Honestly and accurately
I'm not talking about fan attacks. If you're listening to fan attacks in regards to who you're electing, then I really got nothing to say to you :pachaha:

No I was referring to the attacks from the candidates
 

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I'm not talking about fan attacks. If you're listening to fan attacks in regards to who you're electing, then I really got nothing to say to you :pachaha:

No I was referring to the attacks from the candidates
Well, her and Bernie don’t really attack each other so the only other attacks are centrists. If you agree with them ideologically then they are effective.
 

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If a black man is chosen. It’s not going to be Gillum. It’ll be Deval Patrick.

Gillum is no where close to beIng seriously considered
She wouldn't consider Patrick if he's still a Massachusetts resident...

Gillum shouldn't be but... some people are fascinated by him for whatever reason.
So a lot of people don't like Rick Scott. Plus there wasn't a racist campaign waged against Nelson. Your "outperforming" defense is weak at best.

Gillum is an excellent great VP pick for Warren. Though I admit Abrams would probably be better. And Deval better still.
Except I haven't articulated a defense and I don't need to. You're the one attributing Gillum's loss to racism and alleged Russian meddling while claiming his ethics investigation contributed nothing to it. Since you're so sure his scandal didn't hurt him then provide evidence that this is the case.

It shouldn't be hard to understand why Warren picking a loser, because he did in fact lose, who couldn't make it through municipal-level politics without being dinged would be a bad pick. Having anti-corruption articulated in your campaign platform and choosing a running mate who settled, he wasn't cleared, an ethics investigation isn't a great look. Your VP isn't supposed to add to your baggage straight out the gate. That's just the opening salvo on why he's a terrible choice.

If you feel differently cool, we don't need to agree.

honestly, i'm not a fan of the "almost won so lets elevate you" candidates.

Incumbency matters. It proves and establishes momentum.

If Abrams was serious, she'd run for office. Gillum too. Beto at least ran for something, albeit the wrong office.

I'm sad they lost, but they're not exactly Hillary Clinton either.

Eh, Abrams and Gillum have been working on voting initiatives since losing their elections, they are clearly serious. Abrams is the only one with serious rumblings about her as a VP. If anything, O'Rourke is less serious because he had no business running in the first place. Not to sound callous, but he didn't have anything to run on until his hometown suffered a tragedy.
 

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Anybody who thinks what Gillum did in FL wasn’t close to miraculous even in (alleged) defeat knows nothing at all about FL politics and the putrid hordes of MAGA hellbeasts that inhabit the state.

Lol@underperforming Bill Nelson being a knock. Bill Nelson is the only type of Democrat that ever wins statewide races in FL. And the sitting Governor Rick Scott was Trump Jr. A Democrat hasn’t won a gubernatorial election in FL since 1991, but a fiery young black FAMU grad running as a progressive isn’t a thing cause he got cheated and barely lost and he was investigated by the FBI as mayor of a redneck college town and all they got on him was he took a ticket to Hamilton from an undercover agent posing as a lobbyist.
:dead:

Florida is unique tho in that you got many subsets of MAGA you got to deal with.

Panhandle hicks
Zionist Jews
Confused Cubans
Flaky suburbanites
 

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Except I haven't articulated a defense and I don't need to. You're the one attributing Gillum's loss to solely racism and alleged Russian meddling while claiming his ethics investigation contributed nothing to it.

It shouldn't be hard to understand why Warren picking a loser, because he did in fact lose, who couldn't make it through municipal-level politics without being dinged would be a bad pick. Having anti-corruption articulated in your campaign platform and choosing a running mate who settled, he wasn't cleared, an ethics investigation isn't a great look. Your VP isn't supposed to add to your baggage straight out the gate. That's just the opening salvo on why he's a terrible choice.

Yeah. Weak.

If you feel differently cool, we don't need to agree.

On that we agree.
 
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