OfTheCross
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Studies show Trump won because people were angry about the economy and didn't trust Hillary?
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Studies show Trump won because people were angry about the economy and didn't trust Hillary?
Same thing Obama did by not focusing on race. Everyone is acting like HRC didn’t get killed for telling the truth when she called them deplorable.I don't think Bernie is really in denial about Trump voters, it's more of an intentional political strategy.
He believes he can get more white voters (something Dems struggle with) by downplaying racial issues when possible.
Whether or not this is an effective strategyI guess we'll have to wait and see.
88m3
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I don't think Bernie is really in denial about Trump voters, it's more of an intentional political strategy.
He believes he can get more white voters (something Dems struggle with) by downplaying racial issues when possible.
Whether or not this is an effective strategy
Haha. Great strategy. I hear it from his cult members all of the time.
"88, how are we going to win the election if we don't cater to the white racist junkies that want to oppress you from Floverlandia that you've said you want to turn into mulch and repurpose their land as farms and national parks".
Bernie's base of apologists are actually reactionaries and haven't realized it.
Kenny West
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This is all it is.I don't think Bernie is really in denial about Trump voters, it's more of an intentional political strategy.
He believes he can get more white voters (something Dems struggle with) by downplaying racial issues when possible.
Whether or not this is an effective strategy
He has a better shot at being a unity canidate if he frames his fight through dismantling the institutions racists can enforce their bias and produce inequality. rather than charging the white populace as a whole of racism. It's uninspiring as black person but I get it. It sure as fukk isnt racist
Ill take the "we'll see" approach too, but I can say for certain approaches to handling racism DONT fukkING WORK.
Beto and Buttigeg style paying lip service/vaguely talking tough, woke pandering about fighting Institutional racism doesnt work
Warren's "black plans" Have given her no traction
Harris leaned into identity and identity politics and it backfired hard
Booker came in with the most overt pro black agenda and left with no black support
Hillary style classic black pandering tactics didnt energize black voters
This shyt doesnt fukking work, ill take revolution over pandering thank you very much
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OfTheCross
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The sexism jabs didn't land, now they have to resort to Bernie is racist
88m3
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Bernie wants to make white people feel whole again and that isn't identity politics?
Some of you guys are really sick in the head
Stop using catchphrases to hide behind what you're really advocating
Some of you guys are really sick in the head
Stop using catchphrases to hide behind what you're really advocating
But that's the thing, she said exactly what Bernie did to the NYT. She didn't throw all of them under the bus...
Speaking at a fundraiser in New York City on Friday, Hillary Clinton said half of Donald Trump’s supporters belong in a “basket of deplorables” characterized by “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic” views.
"I know there are only 60 days left to make our case — and don’t get complacent, don’t see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think well he’s done this time. We are living in a volatile political environment. You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?"
"The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."
Read Hillary Clinton's 'Basket of Deplorables' Remarks on Trump Supporters
OfTheCross
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the fact so many people pushed back on Sanders for that was kinda astonishing to me. Most times its like i'm the only one who is seeing this shyt.
She said half of them. And she knows white people hate being called racist more than racism itself. So she backtracked but the damage was done. It didn’t just implicate them, it implicated anyone who was friends with them. She called a 4th of the country deplorable b. You know how that goes regardless of the fact that she was right.But that's the thing, she said exactly what Bernie did to the NYT. She didn't throw all of them under the bus...
Speaking at a fundraiser in New York City on Friday, Hillary Clinton said half of Donald Trump’s supporters belong in a “basket of deplorables” characterized by “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic” views.
"I know there are only 60 days left to make our case — and don’t get complacent, don’t see the latest outrageous, offensive, inappropriate comment and think well he’s done this time. We are living in a volatile political environment. You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?"
"The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well."
Read Hillary Clinton's 'Basket of Deplorables' Remarks on Trump Supporters
OfTheCross
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88m3
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He was doing his good old boys, good old days pander. It's disgusting and should be called out every time.