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At least we wouldn't get the blame when wack candidates like Hillary lose.
I've already gotten that reality check, I'm an independent and already know the Democratic Party doesn't completely fukk with me.

I have no issues with progressives not voting for Hilary if y’all didn’t fukk with her.


But most progressives opinions do not matter in a parliamentary system. :yeshrug:

Bernie would be irrelevant, No one would know who AOC is. Moderate politicians account for the majority of elected officials for democrats in the house/senate.

AOC/Bernie get pub bc theyre in the Democratic Party and have support bc of that.

but to be blunt I’m tired of hearing western/eastern northern progressives complain and try to act like they represent a large constituency of ppl throughout America.

Moderates will fukk with y’all, but u will cease to take for granted the base of the party that progressives openly shyt on.

Let AOC/Bernie stand on their own without the help of moderates.

let’s see how much the rest of America cares about her. shyts mad annoying, some of y’all live in a fantasy land.

I’m perfectly fine with y’all going off and doing your own thing. Bye, bye :ehh: dig your own grave. We’ll pay for your shovels
 

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or that i see protecting and growing the middle class as more important than vilifying and attacking rich people
You have to pinpoint an enemy. Why are all these things not happening? Who is controlling our policy? Attacking corrupt plutocrats plays well to everyone but the upper middle class.
 

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You guys really out still pretending any candidate is running on reparations besides Williamson? :laff:
Sell yourself as a progression but be regressive on anything for black folks :mjlol:. Bernies a fukking scam and a con artist.
 

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Trump and his supporters are rich people lol
trump supporters are also poor white people easily influenced by god, guns and racism...and dems have plenty of rich supporters as well. yall gotta stop seeing the world in terms of rich/poor without taking into account individual's beliefs/actions
You have to pinpoint an enemy. Why are all these things not happening? Who is controlling our policy? Attacking corrupt plutocrats plays well to everyone but the upper middle class.
individuals aren't the enemy, the system we enable to exploit folks and keep wealth concentrated is. if we could magically wave a wand and have a perfect economic system, i wouldn't give a shyt about millionaires and billionaires existing. yall have misplaced anger and tend to assert things about people once they start making over x-dollars, that's as dumb as the idea that everyone struggling is on the same team. "just cuz we the same color don't make you my brother"
 

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Think about it this way, Trump won cause of 77,000 votes in 3 states.

Would Sanders have performed worse? I doubt... considering he was campaigning in those states hard for Hillary. I'm sure if he had won the nomination, the blue wall doesn't fall.

Even with a 'good' economy, Bernie is leading or tied with Trump in the midwestern states. And the Trump campaign refuses to believe their own internal polling showing them losing to Sanders there. Trump reportedly fired pollsters on his campaign who just reported the findings.

The economy has been growing but as Trump and Bernie said in 2016, the top line unemployment numbers don't tell the story. Yang has been hammering this down too with data on labor force participation, people living paycheck to paycheck, people on disability, etc.

It's too early to take polls too seriously IMO. Once the primaries are over, FOX News and right-wing media are going to go all in on Trump's opponent.

So whether it's Sanders, Biden, or Warren, most likely Trump is going to gain some ground in the polls (this happens with most incumbents). It's not that Trump is going to get any more popular, it's that the right is going to do their best to drag his opponent down to Hillary levels of unpopularity.
 

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What a worthless, bitter loser. fukk off somewhere, Clinton.

I hope Sanders drops the kid gloves and realizes that these fukks expect him to play by a different set of rules. This bitter old hag still mad at Bernie when he went out of his way to not attack her on the obvious shyt everyone else was the whole election cycle. You’re only fueling the fire, lady.
 

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Think about it this way, Trump won cause of 77,000 votes in 3 states.

Would Sanders have performed worse? I doubt... considering he was campaigning in those states hard for Hillary. I'm sure if he had won the nomination, the blue wall doesn't fall.

Even with a 'good' economy, Bernie is leading or tied with Trump in the midwestern states. And the Trump campaign refuses to believe their own internal polling showing them losing to Sanders there. Trump reportedly fired pollsters on his campaign who just reported the findings.

The economy has been growing but as Trump and Bernie said in 2016, the top line unemployment numbers don't tell the story. Yang has been hammering this down too with data on labor force participation, people living paycheck to paycheck, people on disability, etc.
How do you account for the PUMAs if Bernie was the nominee in 2016? :patrice:

You also seem to have more faith than me that cac America won't be substantially affected by attack ads linking Bernie to Stalin, Mao, Castro, etc..."Bolshevik Bernie" is going to inevitably be Trump's nickname for him.

I think Trump's internals are showing him losing handily to Biden which is why he has his minions going around the world risking indictment/impeachment to gather up dirt on him.
 

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I’d say she’s the MOST unlikable considering many Democrats AND all Republicans absolutely despise her. Trump is disliked by most Democrats (secretly liked by establishment Dems) and a select few Republicans.
She’s the most popular democrat after Obama. The internet is not real life. Once again
 
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