If there is a compromise you don't have to compromise against your self before the negotiations begin. That's been a big problem for the democratic party and why they have not been able to cultivate a culture in parts of the country that appeals to the every day realities of people. They've though technocratically about what they can pass in congress instead of changing the culture and values of the electorate via movement politics.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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If there is a compromise you don't have to compromise against your self before the negotiations begin. That's been a big problem for the democratic party and why they have not been able to cultivate a culture in parts of the country that appeals to the every day realities of people. They've though technocratically about what they can pass in congress instead of changing the culture and values of the electorate via movement politics.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
young black people aren't fukking with her after all her documentaries going after black menwho hates oprahmaybe the MAGA base
Are Biden supporters willing to support Bernie? Are Klobuchar supporters willing to support Warren? It's kinda funny how this argument is always framed one way.
Steyer ain't playing games out here. He stay taking jabs at wine cave Pete even while speaking on reparations
He's so adorable.
"Hey Bernie, just wanted to say hi"
nikka be Jeffin like a mug but I fukks with him.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
This is all accurate
there is a common factor to all this fukkery but I don’t want to upset his fans
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
start a new party...progressive parties started once before and had decent results locally/statewide and even decent showings nationally. i just don't see the point in trying to pull people with you who don't agree with you. yes, i know the realities of how hard it is to start a new party, but i also don't believe in trying to force people to see things my way when they don't. all you can do is make your case and hope they agree, not force them to
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the cac mamba
Banned
are they fukking with her more than mike pence?
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
it's actually not, the first person i quoted on this topic was making the point biden supporters need to fall in lineAre Biden supporters willing to support Bernie? Are Klobuchar supporters willing to support Warren? It's kinda funny how this argument is always framed one way.
and lastly, as i've said multiple times, the reality is that centrist dems can weather trump better, so if it seems like it's a one sided ask, that's why. you can't make people who'll be ok want to support something they don't agree with in the same way that people who have the most to lose under 4 more years of trump would. sucks, but i mean, if it comes down to pettiness within the dem party, that's the outlook.
i personally feel like people dems will come together to vote out trump either way, but in the worse case scenario that pettiness succeeds, well the result is more catastrophic for one end than the other.
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
that wasn't your question, you asked who hates oprah and i told you a group of non-trump voters that also don't like her.
Yea but thats not a reality at this point. The system blames 3rd parties for ruining elections. The same burden moderates place oon progressives for voting Dem should also be reflected the other way.
the cac mamba
Banned
fair enoughi'll stick to knowing that the white middle class is not going to vote for elizabeth warren against trump in 2020
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
i just made a post not too far up of why it's not the same...
and all of this continues to make the case of why the two party system is problematic. it fukked over the republican party to transform them to the joke of a party they are today, and i have no clue what the outcome will be with the dem party.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Are Bernie Sanders and his supporters centrists then?