Your last point basically co-signs people who didn’t vote for Hillary and who stayed home. I will say, however, that the left is surging in part because a Democrat is no longer in office and towing the line isn’t required. It’s harder to point at an enemy when your party runs government. If HRC wins in 2016, then on a national level, progressives would be getting backslapped by her surrogates all over television.this post couldn't be more off base...and also makes zero sense, nikka what are you even talking about? it's like yall read a post from someone who's not a bernie supporter and register it as an attack on bernie/progressives/etc.
this has nothing to do with bernie, i've talked about broken government ad nauseum (you wouldn't know that as all you seem to stalk and jump in on are my posts that don't show some vowed loyalty to bernie), and i've been a proponent of a mutli party system for 6-7 years now...but you think every response i make in here has something to do with bernie or this cycle.
lastly, i don't expect shyt from the government, that's not about centrist, conservative, or progressive political beliefs, that's simply my life experience of not expecting my government to protect me, that's their reputation with me. i applaud moves to make it better, and part of that, IMO, is breaking out of this stupid two party system that has proven ineffective
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Looks like we may have a showdown brewing in Texas
Warren gets no delegates. Bloomberg gets no delegates. Neither does Pete. If those results are seen state-wide and in every district.
Very surprised Bernie is competitive
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
apparently everything he's campaigning on, things that take even more than the four years granted to a president, will all be addressed or enacted on his
apparently everything he's campaigning on, things that take even more than the four years granted to a president, will all be addressed or enacted on his
That’s quite literally not what that statement says.
Kenny West
Veteran
this has nothing to do with bernie,
I just want to pause here to agree that my post nor this discussion was not about bernie. In fact I hadnt mentioned him personally at all in my post.
Which makes the following Napoleon like tangent rather confusing.
Man wtf are you talking about?
All I see from THIS discussion and the dozens of pages from this thread is you disparaging the efforts and people actually pursuing the politics that you claim to have been championing for years. All I'm asking you is why.
Again its not about Bernie. This shyt is bigger than him
Even fukking trump supporters can decry the ineffectiveness of government, its how he gained momentum in the first place. That shyt dont mean anything
If you're using your voice/vote for centrist & establishment interests then all that shyt you talking for 6-7 years is null and void.
Check my post history, ive decried the same things for as long or longer, which is why I support progressives and justice dems or any other movement to improve our politics.
Again, any fukking grifter can shyt on the government on some "both sides" shyt
tldr i just want to know how someone can claim to want improvement for regular people in politics yet have such hostility toward people based movements of doing so.
Walk the walk
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
where have is displayed hostility? if asking why people don't start a new party is hostile, then guilty. where have i disparaged efforts? i disparage idealist talk when i'm not seeing any actual action behind it. am i supposed to congratulate tweets and rehtoric?I just want to pause here to agree that my post nor this discussion was not about bernie. In fact I hadnt mentioned him personally at all in my post.
Which makes the following Napoleon like tangent rather confusing.
Man wtf are you talking about?
All I see from THIS discussion and the dozens of pages from this thread is you disparaging the efforts and people actually pursuing the politics that you claim to have been championing for years. All I'm asking you is why.
Again its not about Bernie. This shyt is bigger than him
Even fukking trump supporters can decry the ineffectiveness of government, its how he gained momentum in the first place. That shyt dont mean anything
If you're using your voice/vote for centrist & establishment interests then all that shyt you talking for 6-7 years is null and void.
Check my post history, ive decried the same things for as long or longer, which is why I support progressives and justice dems or any other movement to improve our politics.
Again, any fukking grifter can shyt on the government on some "both sides" shyt
tldr i just want to know how someone can claim to want improvement for regular people in politics yet have such hostility toward people based movements of doing so.
i also don't get your point about voting for "centrist policy" (quite hilarious you've never commented on my posts to warren moon arguing him down on his positions)? first off there is no "slate" i agree i with...my views, vary subject by subject - so if my not checking every box in the "progressive" column makes me "centrist", then guilty again
and if you've taken "both sides" from my posts, that's on you
as for walk the walk...i'm not some revolution and marching in the streets poster. i worry about myself and i'm happy in my position, that said, for those who are all rah rah, riot in the street take it all back, i'll back you up with my vote when i see action. so yall feel free to walk the walk, i'm focusing on me and mine either way (
about this too? )
