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Bruh, this Bernie M4A shark is amazing. What’s more amazing is his supporters in this thread and others 3-4 months ago slamming Liz for this approach and saying she wasn’t sufficiently progressive because of it. Now, silent.
It seems to me like most people didn't read Sanders or Pramila's bill and assumed his supporters didn't know about it.
 

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Bernie the pragmatist is coming out

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It seems to me like most people didn't read Sanders or Pramila's bill and assumed his supporters didn't know about it.

Yup...this is a quote from a post I had in November..been warning the Warren heads about Pete that long too..

My dude are you seriously playing dumb about these things? Use your googles. Or just read our conversation back. I posted a breakdown of Bernie's funding plan (namely a payroll tax) vs Warren's TWICE. You were quoted in it dipshyt. His version is the one actual wonks would suggest. I also posted a link to a white paper with multiple funding options included. That was during this back and forth.

The implementation is a four year roll out, during which out of pocket costs are reduced and the age for enrollment is decreased gradually. Bernie's not even the only one to have explained this, I think even Gillebrand did during one of the first two debates. Pay attention.

Legislative mechanisms it the only standing challenge and like I said, useful idiots like you are the problem on this end for pretending your legislators wouldn't change their tune entirely if they had to worry about their seats on a no-vote. And I call you a useful idiot, because you don't bother to read his plans but dismiss them. You make it so much easier than it should be for Pete Buttigeig to peel off votes from Warren then blame Sanders for it. It's own goal inception.

P.S. That part of M4A nobody's talking about in Warren's bill from your post above...Bernie and Ro Khana proposed the same concept in a bill. You'd really like his plans if they weren't his.
 

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Yup...this is a quote from a post I had in November..been warning the Warren heads about Pete that long too..
I thought Bernie was talking about his original M4A plan at first too, but reading it again, it looks like Bernie is advocating having at least 2 votes to get to full M4A to overcome resistance. :lupe:

"OK, this is my proposal. We're going to lower the age of Medicare from 65 to 55, and we're expanding it to cover, as I mentioned, dental care and home health care and eyeglasses and hearing AIDS, what percentage of the people do you think in Kentucky would support that proposal? My guess is 70 percent, 80 percent of the people. And my job then as president is to rally those people and tell their Senators to support it. I think we can do that." - Bernie Sanders, February 7, 2020

What he's proposing to vote on is not full M4A, it's the first step of his transition plan. He's broken up his full plan into distinct pieces and saying there would be multiple votes on each. That's exactly what Warren's transition plan does (her first step is actually more generous than this his). I'm waiting to see what response Bernie will get from those people who dragged Liz to hell and back for proposing exactly this. :lupe:
 

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Did you even read these articles? Nowhere in any of them does it say Warren was a "tough on crime" Republican. You just fully made that up out of thin air. She literally says "I was an independent. I was with the GOP for a while because I really thought that it was a party that was principled in its conservative approach to economics and to markets."
 
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