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What is the economic leg up what Warren or Sanders are proposing for White people? They both focus on low an middle income ppl which are disproportionately Black and Latino

They both focus on white, working class people and their policies just happen help black and latino people who are affected disproportionately.

To be fair to Liz she does focus on black people far more than Bernie.
 

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They both focus on white, working class people and their policies just happen help black and latino people who are affected disproportionately.

To be fair to Liz she does focus on black people far more than Bernie.

How would you like them to focus on Black people?

Is it just reparations? What other issues do Blacks have?
 

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Racial Justice

Voting Rights and Enfranchisement
In the last decade, more than 30 states have considered voter suppression laws whose clear intent is to disenfranchise people of color. How pathetic and how cowardly is that. Together we will end voter suppression in this country and move to automatic voter registration. We are going to make voting easier, not harder. To protect our democracy, we must:

  • Restore the Voting Rights Act.
  • Re-enfranchise the right to vote to the 1 in 13 African-Americans who have had their vote taken away by a felony conviction, paid their debt to society, and deserve to have their rights restored.
  • Secure automatic voter registration for every American over 18.
  • End voter suppression and gerrymandering.
  • Abolish burdensome voter ID laws.
  • Make Election Day a national holiday.
Criminal Justice
Over the last number of years, we have seen a terrible level of police violence against unarmed people in the minority community: Laquan McDonald, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Rekia Boyd, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, Jessica Hernandez, Tamir Rice, Jonathan Ferrell, Oscar Grant, Antonio Zambrano-Montes and others. People of color, killed by the police, who should be alive today. We know that African-Americans are twice as likely to be arrested, and almost four times as likely to experience physical force in an encounter with the police.

Today, black men are sentenced to 19% more jail time for committing the exact same crime as white men, and African Americans are jailed at more than five times the rate of whites.

All of this and more is why we are finally going to bring about real criminal justice reform in this country. We are going to end the international embarrassment of having more people in jail than any other country on earth. Instead of spending $80 billion a year on jails and incarceration, we are going to invest in jobs and education for our young people. No more private prisons and detention centers. No more profiteering from locking people up. No more "war on drugs.


Environmental Justice
Today, Flint, Michigan, is still without new pipes for clean water, and there are 3,000 other Flint, Michigans, across the country—neighborhoods with lead rates that were double those of Flint during the height of its crisis. Together, we must:

  • Enact a Green New Deal not just to save the planet, but to protect our most vulnerable communities. We must end the scourge of environmental racism, and at the same time create green jobs to support and rebuild the local economies of affected communities.
  • Protect low-income and minority communities, who are hit first and worst by the causes and impacts of climate change, while also protecting existing energy-sector workers as they transition into clean energy and other jobs.
  • Address the inadequate environmental cleanup efforts of Superfund hazardous waste sites in communities of color.
  • Stop the exposure of people of color to harmful chemicals, pesticides and other toxins in homes, schools, neighborhoods, and workplaces and challenge faulty assumptions in calculating, assessing, and managing risks, discriminatory zoning and land-use practices and exclusionary policies.
  • Enact a Green New Deal to mitigate climate change and focus on building resilience in low-income and minority communities.
Address Healthcare Disparities
Today, the infant mortality rate in black communities is more than double the rate for white communities, and the death rates from cancer and almost every other disease is far higher for blacks. Black women are three and a half times more likely to die from pregnancy than white women. We must:

  • End the racial disparities in our health care system—31% of African Americans and 32% of Hispanics struggle paying medical bills compared to 24% of white Americans. We must guarantee health care to all people of color as a right, not a privilege, through a Medicare-for-all, single-payer program and end this inequity.
Legalizing Marijuana
Ensure that revenue from legal marijuana is reinvested in communities hit hardest by the War on Drugs, especially African-American and other communities of color.

With new tax resources from legal marijuana sales, we will:




    • Create a $20 billion grant program within the Minority Business Development Agency to provide grants to entrepreneurs of color who continue to face discrimination in access to capital.
    • With this revenue we will also create a $10 billion grant program to focus on businesses that are at least 51% owned or controlled by those in disproportionately impacted areas or individuals who have been arrested for or convicted of marijuana offenses.
    • Provide formerly incarcerated individuals with training and resources needed to start their own businesses and worker owned businesses, and guarantee jobs and free job training at trade schools and apprenticeship programs related to marijuana businesses.
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These are not specific to black people breh :francis:

I don't smoke weed nor have I been arrested for a drug charge, I have health care and the right to vote.


There's probably a white dude out there that this is helping more than me :mjlol:
 

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These are not specific to black people breh :francis:

I don't smoke weed nor have I been arrested for a drug charge, I have health care and the right to vote.


There's probably a white dude out there that this is helping more than me :mjlol:
So what are the specific Black issues then?

Lol. That's what I've been trying to gather from a few people all evening.

If it's not reparations, what is it?
 

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So what are the specific Black issues then?

Lol. That's what I've been trying to gather from a few people all evening.

If it's not reparations, what is it?

If it is reparations, what's the problem with that?

Let's start with a basic question. What do you think reparations actually is?
 

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So what are the specific Black issues then?

Lol. That's what I've been trying to gather from a few people all evening.

If it's not reparations, what is it?
I think it all really ties back into reparations of some sorts.



- The wealth gap between black households and everyone else. That will not be fixed by UBI, M4A or raising the minimum wage to $15. Black Americans should be tax exempt IMO or receive some type of compensation for slavery and systemic racism

- Funding for black owned businesses/home ownership (Increases wealth and closes racial wealth gap)

- Funding into predominantly black schools and neighborhoods to repair/build our communities ( Some candidates have already talked about HBCUS that I'm aware of)

- Protection from police/cacs ( not just criminal justice reform for decriminalization of drugs) accountability for cops/cacs shooting black people that are unarmed, pursuing it as a hate crime, having black officers who live within the community police our own neighborhoods so we're not gunned down by trigger happy white cops. (This is the hardest one to find an answer for to be honest)
 

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These are not specific to black people breh :francis:

I don't smoke weed nor have I been arrested for a drug charge, I have health care and the right to vote.


There's probably a white dude out there that this is helping more than me :mjlol:

I didn't say they were.

I was replying to her requirements of "recognizing issues specific to the black community and speaking to how your generic policy also tackles those". I'm trying to see at what point the goal posts moves, not point up explicitly black policies.

Secondly, regardless of you personally having those bases covered, addressing things that disproportionately affect the black community isn't something I would frown at just because it might help a white dude.

Getting other black people in the community who aren't as fortunate to where you are at least, can afford black folk more political agency to actually get reparations or anything else on the black agenda IMO.
 
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I think it all really ties back into reparations of some sorts.



- The wealth gap between black households and everyone else. That will not be fixed by UBI, M4A or raising the minimum wage to $15. Black Americans should be tax exempt IMO or receive some type of compensation for slavery and systemic racism

- Funding for black owned businesses/home ownership (Increases wealth and closes racial wealth gap)

- Funding into predominantly black schools and neighborhoods to repair/build our communities ( Some candidates have already talked about HBCUS that I'm aware of)


- Protection from police/cacs ( not just criminal justice reform for decriminalization of drugs) accountability for cops/cacs shooting black people that are unarmed, pursuing it as a hate crime, having black officers who live within the community police our own neighborhoods so we're not gunned down by trigger happy white cops. (This is the hardest one to find an answer for to be honest)

Regarding the bolded. Both Warren and Sanders have that as part of their platforms.

Regarding the wealth gap, no one has anything specifically tailored to Blacks. But you mentioned being "tax-exempt", based on our progressive tax-code. 75% of Black households are pretty much tax exempt.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/black-american-income-distribution-chart.751058/

Regarding the policing issue, that's largely a local issue. I'm sure that all the Democratic candidates support accountability for police officers.


This is pulled from Sanders' page:

Over the last number of years, we have seen a terrible level of police violence against unarmed people in the minority community: Laquan McDonald, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Rekia Boyd, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, Jessica Hernandez, Tamir Rice, Jonathan Ferrell, Oscar Grant, Antonio Zambrano-Montes and others. People of color, killed by the police, who should be alive today. We know that African-Americans are twice as likely to be arrested, and almost four times as likely to experience physical force in an encounter with the police.
  • End, once and for all, the destructive “war on drugs,” including legalizing marijuana.
  • Eliminate private prisons and detention centers.
  • End cash bail.
  • Abolish the death penalty.
  • End all mandatory minimums and reinstate the federal system of parole.
  • Seriously reform civil asset forfeitures.
  • Bring about major police department reform.
 

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Regarding the bolded. Both Warren and Sanders have that as part of their platforms.

Regarding the wealth gap, no one has anything specifically tailored to Blacks. But you mentioned being "tax-exempt", based on our progressive tax-code. 75% of Black households are pretty much tax exempt.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/black-american-income-distribution-chart.751058/

Regarding the policing issue, that's largely a local issue. I'm sure that all the Democratic candidates support accountability for police officers.


This is pulled from Sanders' page:

Over the last number of years, we have seen a terrible level of police violence against unarmed people in the minority community: Laquan McDonald, Sandra Bland, Michael Brown, Rekia Boyd, Eric Garner, Walter Scott, Freddie Gray, Jessica Hernandez, Tamir Rice, Jonathan Ferrell, Oscar Grant, Antonio Zambrano-Montes and others. People of color, killed by the police, who should be alive today. We know that African-Americans are twice as likely to be arrested, and almost four times as likely to experience physical force in an encounter with the police.
  • End, once and for all, the destructive “war on drugs,” including legalizing marijuana.
  • Eliminate private prisons and detention centers.
  • End cash bail.
  • Abolish the death penalty.
  • End all mandatory minimums and reinstate the federal system of parole.
  • Seriously reform civil asset forfeitures.
  • Bring about major police department reform.

But I ain't in jail doe, fukk that got to do with me?

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Klobuchar isn't gonna get the turnout to make any waves. What she has done is effectively put doubt in some of Pete's supporters. It'll be interesting to see if Bernie can run up the score to make up for Iowa. Warren needs to make some moves in Neveda and win because I don't see a path forward in super Tuesday for someone who has no delegates.
 
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